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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2015, 10:53:48 AM »
What if that were a comma? Could be a bad scan! *shrug*
Could be...and it would make the point about NOT scaling drawings even more relevant, wouldn't it?

Sweet irony there.....IF it were a comma.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #16 on: March 25, 2015, 10:55:34 AM »
I don't think the note near the graphic scale is necessary. That is your reference no matter what scale it was printed at.

I've seen several versions of this:

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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2015, 10:59:15 AM »
I'm trying to add a disclaimer note/scale to our titleblock to the degree of "if this scale does not measure exactly 1 inch, please modify graphic scale blah blah or something..."

Does anyone have something like this in their titleblock they would mind sharing for the sake of example?

Something like this?
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2015, 10:59:30 AM »
I don't think the note near the graphic scale is necessary. That is your reference no matter what scale it was printed at.

I've seen several versions of this:
That message is often meaningless, as the SHEET size MAY be exactly as noted, yet the image on that sheet might still be wrong and thus NOT TO SCALE.

I have also seen versions that want people to measure the area of the border; leading to possible errors as well, because now you are asking someone to
successfully measure greater than a typical single scale length without inducing errors.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2015, 11:05:25 AM »
I thought that is why you added a the scale in text(1/8" = 1') and a barscale for?

So if you lay a scale ruler down and if they match then you can know its wrong and get an idea by what factor.

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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 11:08:37 AM »
if they match then you can know its wrong.

That's my mantra for the day.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 11:09:51 AM »
if they match then you can know its wrong.

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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2015, 11:10:38 AM »
How about:
Warning - If a given dimension does not scale properly the drawing is no to scale.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2015, 11:11:27 AM »
if they match then you can know its wrong.

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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2015, 11:42:11 AM »
if they match then you can know its wrong.

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I picked up what you were putting down Jeff.

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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2015, 12:10:42 PM »
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2015, 01:01:22 PM »
I thought that is why you added a the scale in text(1/8" = 1') and a barscale for?

So if you lay a scale ruler down and if they match then you can know its wrong and get an idea by what factor.
That's how I've always felt, but I guess this is a catch-all cya.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2015, 05:15:06 PM »
One of our clients had a note to the effect that the drawing scale only applies to the CAD file and not any hard copies.
That would be sort of silly, as no one really 'scales' a cad file....do they?

Hard for you to say, I guess, seeing as you've not seen the files.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2015, 09:19:03 AM »
We have a convenient disclaimer:

"All dimensions must be checked on site and not scaled from this drawing."

Typically our plans are marked in our titleblock 1:100 @ A1, but seeing as you never know when a contractor has printed our drawing/pdf plot on his A3 plotter on site 'scaled to fit' it avoids being held responsible for the mistakes of others.
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Re: Titleblock scale disclaimer
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2015, 09:36:19 AM »
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A. SCALES AS STATED ARE VALID ON THE ORIGINAL DRAWING ONLY. DO NOT SCALE FROM
THESE DRAWINGS. WRITTEN DIMENSIONS TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER GRAPHIC
PRESENTATION. DETAIL DIMENSIONS TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER PLAN DIMENSIONS.
B. NOTIFY ARCHITECT OF ANY DIMENSIONAL DISCREPANCIES. ANY MODIFICATIONS OR
DEVIATION TO BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE ARCHITECT FOR REVIEW AND
APPROVAL.
C. ALL VERTICAL DIMENSIONS SHALL BE TAKEN FROM A "BENCH MARK" OR OTHER SIMILAR
GUIDE ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE START OF CONSTRUCTION. HIGH POINTS, LOW POINTS,
IRREGULARITIES IN FLOOR SLAB WHICH COULD AFFECT FABRICATION / INSTALLATION,
WORK OF OTHER TRADES OR VENDORS SHALL BE BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF
ARCHITECT.
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