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[rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« on: November 30, 2021, 03:49:02 PM »
I took a job that made me switch back to using AutoCAD--instead of Revit--after years away. The last AutoCAD I used was about 2012. I used a few versions here and there but it was mostly for construction admin or answering RFIs (-i.e. nothing close to full time use).

1. What happened to block insert? I'm trying to get use to this "library interface" but this is ridiculous. I believe CAB had a block program so if I find a good routine, I'll modify this post.

2. The ribbon is very cumbersome to use (and takes up too much real estate) . Made the switch back to using old menus and toolbars already.

3. So far I have a love/hate relationship with multileaders.
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2021, 05:01:41 PM »
Don't get caught going down the rabbit hole trying to set it up like you remember. Much better off putting that time into learning the new interface.
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2021, 05:09:19 PM »
Ribbon, I hate the way it changes when you select xrefs or different types of entities.
Block insertion, create new Tool Palettes
Multileaders, I've got them using custom lisp:

« Last Edit: November 30, 2021, 05:13:07 PM by framednlv »

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2021, 12:34:03 AM »


1. What happened to block insert? >>>>

I use  CLASSICINSERT . . . changed  the .PGP

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2021, 02:51:14 AM »
Hate the ribbon  :crazy2:

when I was drafting I used cleanscreen and autohotkey to customize my num pad for command shortcuts.
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2021, 07:25:46 AM »
Nobody praises the possibilities of AutoCAD to fully customize the User Interface? :-)


You might hate the Ribbon or Palettes or love it, but unlike other applications AutoCAD can be fully customized. There are still commands available to the old Layer dialog or Block dialog. You don't need to use Ribbons, you don't need to use the button bars, you don't need to use the Command Line, you don't need to use... <anything>, it is a choice. And what you want to use, is editable or programmable.


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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2021, 09:46:19 AM »
@rob
The ribbon is gone. It was one command to make it disappear but workspaces make it easy to get back. I always been a keyboard guy so it was just taking up space.

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I forgot about tool palettes. Nice!
I may want to steal that lisp from you.

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classicinsert. nice! :)
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Clean screen is a good idea. I'm going to use that.

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You can shorten that first statement to: "Nobody should praise AutoCAD".

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2021, 09:52:03 AM »
Nobody praises the possibilities of AutoCAD to fully customize the User Interface? :-)


You might hate the Ribbon or Palettes or love it, but unlike other applications AutoCAD can be fully customized. There are still commands available to the old Layer dialog or Block dialog. You don't need to use Ribbons, you don't need to use the button bars, you don't need to use the Command Line, you don't need to use... <anything>, it is a choice. And what you want to use, is editable or programmable.


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I leave the Ribbon minimised.  There are a few things that are easier through it (editing hatches comes to mind),so you save the real-estate but it;s there when you need/want it.

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2021, 11:29:06 AM »
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2021, 12:02:37 PM »
When I fire up AutoCad, Most of my time is spent trying to get back on the bycicle.    :uglystupid2:
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2021, 07:06:37 PM »
Nobody praises the possibilities of AutoCAD to fully customize the User Interface? :-)


You might hate the Ribbon or Palettes or love it, but unlike other applications AutoCAD can be fully customized. There are still commands available to the old Layer dialog or Block dialog. You don't need to use Ribbons, you don't need to use the button bars, you don't need to use the Command Line, you don't need to use... <anything>, it is a choice. And what you want to use, is editable or programmable.


 :mrgreen:
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I leave the Ribbon minimised.  There are a few things that are easier through it (editing hatches comes to mind),so you save the real-estate but it;s there when you need/want it.

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I minimiz(s)e it as well .. although I'm still a toolbar person when I'm not on the command line.

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2021, 02:26:25 AM »
I never really got out of the digitizer interface from DOS days when AutoCAD use to "sing"
This "digitizer" interface I use is fast, full of embedded LISP code that out performs most pull-down, slide-side-ways, scroll down to find the command type draughting... it utilizes DOSLIB, OPENDCL and iDwgTAB to make draughting fun again... but then, I'm an old bugger, set in my ways.

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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2021, 11:05:06 AM »
Now that is beautiful, I love buttons!
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2021, 02:45:09 PM »
WOW.
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Re: [rant] What happened to AutoCAD
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2021, 09:56:09 AM »
I never really got out of the digitizer interface from DOS days when AutoCAD use to "sing"
This "digitizer" interface I use is fast, full of embedded LISP code that out performs most pull-down, slide-side-ways, scroll down to find the command type draughting... it utilizes DOSLIB, OPENDCL and iDwgTAB to make draughting fun again... but then, I'm an old bugger, set in my ways.

Is the right side of your screen the "iDwgTAB" or something else? I think I might have to try that out.