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Property Set Definitions and Architecture & MEP 2008
« on: February 21, 2008, 04:32:38 PM »
I've got a file from an architect that, when I open it with Architecture 2008 it opens just fine.

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Edit Property Set Definition [PW_DoorObjects:01RoomNumber] and select a
property definition.Press ENTER to continue:
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However, when I (I should say others because they are the ones who really need to access the file and they only have MEP installed) open it with MEP 2008, it hangs here...

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Edit Property Set Definition [PW_DoorObjects:01RoomNumber] and select a
property definition.Press ENTER to continue:

So, question one, since I don't know much about PSDs....
1) Where are they stored?  Are they in a separate file?
2) If MEP is built on top of Architecture, why won't the file open with MEP?
3) Is there a setting somewhere that I need to change?

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Re: Property Set Definitions and Architecture & MEP 2008
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2008, 06:30:45 PM »
You may need to go through this process:

Issue


You want to know how to attach a custom Property Set Definition to pipe or ductwork, so it will be added to the drawing when the part is drawn.


Solution


To link the custom Property Set Definition to the part

On the MEP Common menu, click Content Builder.
Select the pipe or duct you want the Property Set attached to. Click the Modify Part Sizes button.
Right-click on Size Parameters. Click Add.
Select Custom Data 1 and assign a name. (Make note of the name. You will need to make a property definition with the same name later on.) Click OK.
Select Parameter Configuration from the drop-down menu.
Change the Data Storage type for the custom parameter to List. Click OK.
Save and close the part file.
Open C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Autodesk\ABS 2006\enu\Aecb Shared Content\AecbPropertySetDefinitions.dwg.
Open the Style Manager and create a New Property Set Definition.
Select the new Property Set Definition.
On the Applies To tab, select Styles and Definitions. Click Clear All and select Pipe Style.
On the Definition tab, click Add Manual Property Definition. Enter the name of the parameter you created in Step 4 and click OK.
Create any other Property Definitions you want in the Property Set.
Save and close the drawing.
Open a new drawing.
Draw the pipe type you modified in Step 2.
Right-click on the pipe. Click Properties.
In the Properties dialog box, click the Extended Data tab. You will notice that the Property Set is attached to the pipe.
The Property Set is style based and cannot be changed in the Properties dialog box. To change the data in the Property Set, follow these steps:

Right-click the pipe. Click Edit Pipe Style.
In the Pipe Style Properties dialog box, on the General tab, click Property Sets. This will open the Edit Property Set Data dialog box.


And why doesn't MEP work right with Architecture???

The Same reason MAP inside Civil 3D doesn't work with Civil 3D objects. The Subscription program does NOT encourage Autodesk to test their products for interoperability. They do not care if their products do not work with each other. They have your money, and thus NO incentive to test to see if things like DYNanmic input has adverse affects in the vertical applications when the DYN setting suppresses the vertical application prompts.  When we all get together and stop buying in to this subscription nonsense, only then will Autodesk be motivated to fix these issues because they wont be selling any software for 6-9 months if we all just hold out, and say NO. No new version , NO subscription until you fix this stuff and give them your list.
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Re: Property Set Definitions and Architecture & MEP 2008
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2008, 08:32:46 AM »
Issue

You want to know how to attach a custom Property Set Definition to pipe or ductwork, so it will be added to the drawing when the part is drawn.

Nah... that's not it.  I want to know why I can open the DWG in Architecture but not with MEP - it just hangs.

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Re: Property Set Definitions and Architecture & MEP 2008
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2008, 08:22:51 PM »
Check for Object enablers?
You may have installed them for Architectural and not with MEP.
The Civil Object enablers can cause issues for not being installed or from actually being installed as well.
I've ran into these items a few times. Luckily all we needed was the file used as a background, so I did an -exporttoautocad.
Killed off the AEc libraries.
Quite a few people out there are getting carried away with custom schedules placing data into the drawings and the problem is without a way to interpret the data, it hangs.
The error catching is extremely buggy in MEP. Especially with XREF's.
I get at least 2 crashes a day from XREF's on a network.
Image attachments are another issue, they will crach Reference Manager and MEP when they are nested in XREF drawings.
Why? No clue, detaching all the images cures it for me.
Audit seldom catches anything in MEP 2008.
Recover a little better but not much but the two commands are definately working differently which really bothers me as well.
Mainly because I can't batch a Recover.