Topic: Gigundus File Size ~ Why?!

[M-dub]

We have a 2004 dwg file from a big contracting firm (that frequently sends us garbage) and I can't figure out why it's so bloody big!  I received it in a 4MB ZIP file and the DWG file was 7.14MB and when I opened it and saved it, it ballooned to over 77MB!  I deleted all of the layer filters, there's nothing left to purge out and this drawing, from first glance, doesn't appear to warrant even a 7MB file, but even after deleting filters, etc. it's still waaay up there.

Any ideas to throw out there?

[Greg B]

Do a save as and name it something else.

[ronjonp]

Are all the layers on? Perhaps there is a ton of stuff on a frozen layer.

[MP]

Run this and then report back?

[M-dub]

Are all the layers on? Perhaps there is a ton of stuff on a frozen layer.

Checked that.  Nothing but a couple rev clouds.



One thing I DID find was a few blocks that are used hundreds of times to create a number of quazi-linetypes.

Man these guys really get under my skin.  I say Nuts to them and the horse they rode in on!

[mjfarrell]

have a look here: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/item?siteID=123112&id=2886521&linkID=9240617


the originators are most likely using Copy-Clip and creating hordes of  UNNAMED blocks

or one might try using MAP (if available) to query in only valid objects from the source and the file should shrink accordingly

[M-dub]

Run this and then report back?

Sweet...
I think we have narrowed it down...

Blocks.Count = 87
    *Model_Space.Count = 3891
    *Paper_Space.Count = 0
    A$C6AD910B9.Count = 12
    L1.Count = 2
    TEMPLAB_BMP.Count = 1563
    CRNEW.Count = 11
    TB38X29_5.Count = 123
    DNORTH.Count = 84
    L3.Count = 2
    CS12C.Count = 44
    DWG_INFO.Count = 4
    esymc090.Count = 11
    CA5Pi.Count = 39
    CA10D.Count = 1
    A$C0DEC4D7E.Count = 28
    1781789.Count = 2
    PUSHBUTTON.Count = 5
    EXIT LIGHT.Count = 1
    FIXTURE F1.Count = 1
    MOTOR.Count = 4
    esyml022.Count = 7
    FIXTURE F2.Count = 5
    esyml027.Count = 5
    BATTERY PACK.Count = 12
    EMERG. LIGHTS.Count = 10
    WELDING RECEPT..Count = 22
    esyml006.Count = 6
    DISCONNECT SW..Count = 1
    LIGHTING CONTACTOR.Count = 6
    esyml013.Count = 3
    RECEPT..Count = 1
    CO2 DETECT.Count = 5
    WARNING LIGHT.Count = 4
    FA STATION.Count = 5
    esyml033.Count = 7
    FA HORN STROBE.Count = 2
    SMOKE DETECTOR.Count = 31
    FA END OF LINE RESISTOR.Count = 5
    PHONE OUTLET.Count = 1
    SPEAKER OUTLET.Count = 1
    DAMPER MOTOR.Count = 2
    esyml043.Count = 1
    esymc065.Count = 6
    MDS.Count = 2
    esymg004.Count = 13
    esyml041.Count = 1
    esyml042.Count = 1
    76768.Count = 2
    Tank 4.Count = 8
    Tank 3.Count = 8
    Tank 2.Count = 8
    Tank 1.Count = 8
    A$C416B30BC.Count = 1
    esymg001.Count = 6
    esymc001.Count = 4
    esymp009.Count = 1
    Esymc022.Count = 12
    Esymc002.Count = 5
    A$C43481B2E.Count = 27
    CA10.Count = 1
    A$C76D0411A.Count = 2
    Conc.Count = 186
    A$C3CDA3CDF.Count = 40
    W310x226.Count = 1
    *D62.Count = 11
    *D63.Count = 9
    *D64.Count = 10
    *D65.Count = 7
    *D66.Count = 7
    *D67.Count = 7
    *D68.Count = 7
    *D69.Count = 8
    *D70.Count = 9
    *D71.Count = 9
    *D72.Count = 9
    *D73.Count = 10
    *D74.Count = 7
    *D75.Count = 7
    *D76.Count = 10
    *D77.Count = 7
    *D78.Count = 7
    *D79.Count = 7
    *D80.Count = 7
    *D81.Count = 7
    *D82.Count = 7
    *D83.Count = 9
    esymg005.Count = 1
Dictionaries.Count = 11
    ACAD_COLOR.Count = 0
    Groups.Count = 0
    Layouts.Count = 2
    ACAD_MATERIAL.Count = 0
    ACAD_MLINESTYLE.Count = 1
    PlotConfigurations.Count = 0
    ACAD_PLOTSTYLENAME.Count = 1
    Ks_DetailStyleDictionary.Count = 22
    Ks_GroupDataDictionary.Count = 447584
    Ks_ShapeRefDictionary.Count = 304
    Ks_XRecordDictionary.Count = 0
DimStyles.Count = 2
Groups.Count = 0
Layers.Count = 32
Layouts.Count = 2
Linetypes.Count = 9
RegisteredApplications.Count = 2
Modelspace.Count = 3891
Paperspace.Count = 0

[MP]

AutoPLANT structural strikes again.

Zip and send it to my gmail account Mike.

[M-dub]

AutoPLANT structural strikes again.

Zip and send it to my gmail account Mike.

Awesome!
Sent to both your gmail accounts.    Or the two that I have, anyway.

Many thanks! 

[MP]

Before I lobotomize <cough>, I mean fix it, are you using any of the AutoPLANT aspects of the model and / or does it have to round trip back to the vendor / source?

[M-dub]

Heh... AFIK, we only need a plot of it, but I can definitely tell you that WE won't be using any of the AutoPlant content.

[MP]

Does 293k sound better (check your email)?

[M-dub]

Got 'er dude.  Thanks again! 

[Keith™]

I am going to go off right about now and ask a question that probably doesn't need to be answered, but I will ask it anyway ...

Why on earth is it perfectly ok for one person to "dumb down" a drawing (i.e. kill AutoPlant data) yet dumbing down a drawing was lambasted in another thread because of a bunch of "what ifs" ...

I don't see any difference in the end result, yet one is perfectly acceptable, while the other was not ... can anyone explain the difference, because quite honestly I certainly don't understand it.

[Josh Nieman]

I am going to go off right about now and ask a question that probably doesn't need to be answered, but I will ask it anyway ...

Why on earth is it perfectly ok for one person to "dumb down" a drawing (i.e. kill AutoPlant data) yet dumbing down a drawing was lambasted in another thread because of a bunch of "what ifs" ...

I don't see any difference in the end result, yet one is perfectly acceptable, while the other was not ... can anyone explain the difference, because quite honestly I certainly don't understand it.

Glad I ain't the only one that noticed