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hyposmurf

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« on: January 11, 2004, 05:43:18 PM »
Am I seeing things?Is there a 2005 about to emerge?I'm only getting used to the latest one! :(    
http://www.thalheim.ca/vbadet2005.htm
http://www.delmarlearning.com/Browse_CatalogDetail.asp?XXID=12156&ISBN=1401850596
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2004, 06:02:53 PM »
Hmm, no work from Autodesk so who knows..
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2004, 06:05:03 PM »
In some ways I hope not,wouldve been better if they'd had waited for a 2006 version,let everyone at least get used to 2004 and also wait till they developed a better product,not just knock out another product in the hope that well all part with more cash.Some more info from a more reliable source,maybe only rumours though.
http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/autocad/select/091803_grabowski_acad2005.htm
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2004, 06:55:07 PM »
Who can tell ....  I am getting to the point where I think that Autodesk has taken the high road to profits over usability and plain good sense. While MOST users have not yet migrated to 2004, it could be a ploy to get them to do so pretty quickly so they can incerease revenues. After all who wants to be using a version that is 4 or 5 releases behind the rest of the world?

Could you imagine using R12 right now? It is only 5 releases back from 2004, and 2000 is 3 versions behind 2004, so it could be that since they want to "encourage" users to upgrade that they make people fearful that they will be left behind and they will immediately go out and buy the latest upgrade or at least upgrade to the "next to last" version.
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2004, 12:50:47 AM »
As far as upgrading goes, I got a newsletter thingy from my re-seller that said something like the 15th was the last day to upgrade 2000.
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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2004, 06:18:36 AM »
Yep, thats right Daron
January was the last time to upgrade any Autodesk 2000 products. I had an email a little while back stating that.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2004, 06:43:22 AM »
oh no, I'm going to become obsolete in 3 days !
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hyposmurf

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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2004, 07:46:56 AM »
Better get in quick then,as youll have to fork out for the full version.Sickening really as aN AutoCAD customer you should have some privileges over a new customer,like being to able uprgade when you want.Another thing is if they bring versions out too quickly you'll have a spread of companies all with different types versions of CAD.The last few years the common version used by companies was 2000,now we'll have 2000,2004 & 2005.Maybe I shouldve started this thread off in The Vent! :)
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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2004, 08:23:16 AM »
From the second link (I added the emphasis):

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Introducing AutoCAD 2005
BOOK W/CD ROM (MULTIMED/AUDIO
First Edition
Author: Thomas Stellman; G.V. Krishnan
ISBN#: 1401850596
Published: 8/15/2004 - Item Not Yet Available
© 2005
Published by Autodesk
softcover


I'd say 'Published by Autodesk' is official word, wouldn't you?

But it's important that we notice the published and copyright dates... which is confusing. Is it legal to copyright something before it exists?
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2004, 09:07:47 AM »
Guess so.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2004, 10:11:32 AM »
I hereby attach copyright to AutoCAD 2006 and later versions ... (since it appears it can be done in advance) Do you think I could get away with it?
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2004, 10:25:31 AM »
Hell, I'll go to court for you!
"Yes, your honor, that scoundrel did it just to p*** of AutoDORK!  :twisted:  But then, who better deserves the shaft, your honor?  Look at what they've been doin' to US lately!" :roll:
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2004, 12:19:50 PM »
Actually, no you can't. The name AutoCAD is a registered trademark of Autodesk and is, therefore, only copyrightable by them or with permission from them in use of a title. At least that's how I understand it. Of course, IANAL (I am not a Lawyer).
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« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2004, 01:03:26 PM »
Thanks for the legal opinion there Chuck.  What prison did you get your law degree from? :wink:
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Dent Cermak

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2004, 01:07:25 PM »
ONIHC ??
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« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2004, 01:18:59 PM »
Chino?? San quentin!!
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« Reply #16 on: January 12, 2004, 01:22:49 PM »
Well since I can't copyright the trademark name AutoCAD, I hereby claim the trademark Auto for myself and at the same time I claim copyright on all future incarnations of Autoxxxx. :P
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« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2004, 03:34:57 PM »
I get my lawyerly education from Groklaw.

I'm a Linux junkie.

They're covering what is probably the most important case in history regarding people who write software (any software) for free.

It's worth a look, trust me.
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hyposmurf

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2004, 07:45:52 AM »
Heres a run down of what might be included in the new version:
CAD2K5
And look Hyposmurf sussed out the insert URL trick thank God!
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« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2004, 08:01:16 AM »
Introducing 2005 huh!
I guess that means it will be out by march2004?
after all it's not like them to give a years notice
& we can't have 2005 in 2005 thats reserved for 2007?  which of course by then we'll be up to 2011
which should by then see another version name structure change to AlphaCharlie7 :P
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« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2004, 08:21:48 AM »
A2k5 will probably be another R13
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« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2004, 09:38:42 AM »
How so?
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« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2004, 10:11:04 AM »
R13 was rushed out so fast after R12 that most people never used it. It was perhaps the WORST public release of AutoCAD EVER. We will have to wait and see if 2005 fits the bill.
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« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2004, 10:13:35 AM »
2000i was rushed out pretty quick itself.
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« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2004, 10:25:42 AM »
It was the internet fix for 2000 hence the i
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« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2004, 11:05:35 AM »
I know, but 13c4 wasn't resold to look like another release. It was just a bug fix. 2000i seemed like a two in one. A fix and a next release. I bet 2000i is still supported and upgradable. The release it was to fix isn't.
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« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2004, 11:16:21 AM »
I'm not sure if it is or not.
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« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2004, 01:45:59 PM »
The following AutoCAD 2000 based products were apparently retired on 15 January 2004:

AutoCAD 2000
AutoCAD LT 2000
Autodesk Architectural Desktop R2
AutoCAD Map 2000 / R4
AutoCAD Land Development Desktop R2
AutoCAD Mechanical 2000
AutoCAD Mechanical 2000 PP
Autodesk Mechanical Desktop R4.0
Autodesk Mechanical Desktop R4.0 PP
No mention of 2000i  :o
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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2004, 09:41:17 PM »
Well, it is official, either we upgrade or we have to retire... When is the party???
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