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Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« on: August 25, 2017, 09:20:46 am »
Each time I drag a dimension text, it looks like the below. Usually I have to remove the <> then it will be a blank value. Finally add a MLeader and type the dimension in it.

Any ideas how to get the dimension text to look like the MLeader text?
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2017, 09:40:28 am »
Ask Autodesk why the 'leader' supplied to a moved dimension string does not honor the settings for LEADER as set in the dimension style?

Perhaps open a support ticket through your vendor.   


I'll bet the answer is;  "It works as designed"
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2017, 10:10:39 am »
Autodesk gave us 3 options for Dim text alignment: Horizontal, Aligned with dimension line, and ISO standard. You'll want to use ISO Standard for the dim styles you want to behave as in your example. Keep in mind that if you use rotated viewports, the dimension will be relative to the rotation of the "page north" that was active when and where the dimension was created.

Unfortunately ISO standard isn't dynamic to the view orientation, though it seem like it would be a good fit for that behavior.

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2017, 12:21:12 pm »
Looks like it's the DIMTOH system variable (Text outside Align set to Yes)
Using BricsCAD I can not set that on an object, needs to be set in the Style only.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2017, 12:54:11 pm »
The user wants the text leader that goes with the dimension to have an Arrow, or Dot or anything; like a real leader attached to it.

It isn't the text alignment he is fighting, if I've read correctly.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2017, 12:56:36 pm »
Yup. if possible.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2017, 12:59:10 pm »
Yup. if possible.

Probably NOT with a dimension....but possible with a very clever/constrained dynamic block, with a field to get the line length embedded in it.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2017, 02:29:15 pm »
The user wants the text leader that goes with the dimension to have an Arrow, or Dot or anything; like a real leader attached to it.

It isn't the text alignment he is fighting, if I've read correctly.

Yes Dimension text, The ISO setting in the autocad dialog box sets the DIMTOH for the dimension style.
In BricsCAD you access the style settings without the dialog box but you can only set the DIMTOH for the Style & not the individual object.
There is a TextOutsideAlign property in the dim object you can access with vla- but I did not test it to see if it was Read Only.

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2017, 04:21:53 pm »
Looks like it's the DIMTOH system variable (Text outside Align set to Yes)
Using BricsCAD I can not set that on an object, needs to be set in the Style only.
I don't have a BricsCAD V17 license, but in V16 and earlier this setting can be changed per entity via the Properties Bar.

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 04:38:55 pm »
Using 17 and no object access to the setting.
Not sure if you can see but it is dimmed for the object properties.
You can change it?
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2017, 06:02:59 pm »
But guys, none of that is what the user is asking for..... :whistling:
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2017, 06:08:53 pm »
Using the properties window-set the text rotation to 0 then HOVER OVER THE DIM AND SELECT MOVE TEXT WITH LEADER

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2017, 06:36:38 pm »
But guys, none of that is what the user is asking for..... :whistling:
So is the rotated dim text the issue or the Arrow he wants or both.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2017, 06:38:24 pm »
Hi Bryce.
What you indicate is perfectly correct,
but,
The OP wants to add a head to the leader.

As far as I know it's not achievable out of the box.

and thinking about it I'm not too sad.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2017, 06:58:06 pm »
Agreed Kerry. There's a rolling stones song that (You can't always get).
Interestingly a Revit user showed me a nice curved leader (looks way nicer) from the dim and asked me if cad can do that. Nope

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2017, 05:09:40 am »
You can change it?
Yes. In V16 only two text related fields are greyed out: 'Fractional type' and 'Measurement'. All other values, including 'Text align outside', can be changed in the Properties Bar. Maybe the introduction of dimension style families in BricsCAD V17 has had this side effect?

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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2017, 08:07:13 am »
OK there is something about the style I was using that locked the DIMTOH.
Using another drawing that setting is available to change on the object.
So maybe the look the OP wanted is possible except for the arrow head.
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2017, 08:13:35 am »
All except the arrow
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Re: Dimension Text Dragged Rotation
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2017, 08:19:15 am »
Guys it's been interesting specially from the V17 version. I can without the arrow head. Since it's not possible to get it to show up on the dimension style.
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