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davidp

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BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« on: June 23, 2017, 06:03:34 am »
Hi,
I'm new to BIM and Revit and working for a small company also new to this. I've been tasked with answering some questions about BIM and would really value any insights or advice in answering the following 2 questions

1. How BIM helps you with information verification?
2. How BIM helps you with information validation?

I understand that verification is the manual process of checking deliverables against requirements and that validation is the automated process of checking digital deliverables for errors/inconsistencies against information requirements.

What does this mean in practical terms?
(Learning to use Revit has been tough enough)

Any input would be welcome.

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2017, 09:45:59 am »
Your first port of call should be https://www.thenbs.com/
Depending upon your country, actually that's not true. Read what they have set up and developed with regard to the BIM process.
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davidp

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2017, 12:19:53 pm »
Thanks 42,
Looks like a lot of reading for me to do.
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lamarn

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2017, 03:42:34 pm »
Take on step back before question 1. And 2. Can get any decent answer
What IS 'bim'? .. (supposed to be or what is being sold to you?)
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hudster

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2017, 06:24:43 am »
(Learning to use Revit has been tough enough)

There is a world of difference between using Revit and proper BIM, we are working at BIM level 2, and it took us a year to get there.
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davidp

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2017, 07:44:37 am »
Thanks,
We are a small specialist structural consultancy so the whole BIM process is a bit of a sledgehammer approach for us.
We are now getting comfortable producing a structural model to federate with the rest of the design team, integrating design with the model is proving problematic (I need a bigger stick).

The problem comes because we only do a very small part of any project the data is manageable on a human scale while the BIM process seems specifically designed for large organisations.
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hudster

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2017, 02:38:33 pm »
BIM set up properly doesn't take all that much more effort than a standard project does, it just requires a lot of preparation.

We spent 6 full months going through all our standard schedules, extracting what information they contain, and then checking through Cobie to see if those parameters existed, before populating our families with the ones we had, or creating custom shared parameters when we didn't.

Now we can create coordinated schedules quickly, all we need to do is add the family, the import our initial excel schedules that our engineers produce to the model and our families auto size, and our BIM schedules are complete. It's a quicker more precise process than it used to be, but it took time and commitment from everyone involved, from company directors to our BIM manager who spent a full 6 months working full time on creating and mapping parameters.

Even now a full 18 months later we are adding families on a daily basis, and when we do, we normally have to add more parameters to our schedules or families. It's a constantly evolving process.

The major thing I find myself telling people on an almost daily basis is "BIM IS NOT CAD" forget the draughting element, that's just 3D modeling, BIM is a whole lot more.
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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2017, 04:47:00 pm »
We are on our 3rd and 4th Revit projects at my new employer and I can't wait to start moving standards to Revit scheduling. Hoping to get some going on the earlier one before DD goes out in a couple of months. The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned.

I won't tell anyone to forget the drafting element, more specifically, annotating 101, because Revit takes care of most of the rest of the drafting. IMHO, there is an art to annotating and it makes a huge difference when done well.
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hudster

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Re: BIM Questonnaire Advice please
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2017, 04:04:21 am »
Annotating is a whole lot easier when you have the appropriate parameters in place, and tags which are set up well.

We spent some time getting this right, now I just have to select the equipment with the appropriate tag, and Revit does the rest, major time saver, well after all the prep work is done  :wink:
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