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Jeff H

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Binding 750 pages
« on: May 16, 2017, 06:28:25 pm »
We have a project where just one phase will be 750 sheets. Is there a common rule for maximum number of sheets to bind before breaking it up, and once you get over 200 or so how do you guys bind the sheets? Hopefully its clear I am talking about "binding" actual paper sheets together.

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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2017, 07:10:53 pm »

The size of the sheets, the mode of transport, and the distance needed to travel can all be determining factors.

If you need a hand truck to haul around a single bound set, you've probably stapled too many.

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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2017, 09:02:19 pm »
750 Sheets!!!

In a 160 sheet set, we broke the set up into two halves by discipline, civil, structural and architectural in one half MEP in the other half.

For 780 set, I would break it up into each discipline.
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Jeff H

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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2017, 01:00:56 am »

Thanks guys, did not know if there was another method like punching holes or something to bind them.

The size of the sheets, the mode of transport, and the distance needed to travel can all be determining factors.

If you need a hand truck to haul around a single bound set, you've probably stapled too many.
We have a big stapler but not this big. Will be going from Florida to Pennsylvania, 30x42 and 15x21 sets.
750 Sheets!!!

In a 160 sheet set, we broke the set up into two halves by discipline, civil, structural and architectural in one half MEP in the other half.

For 780 set, I would break it up into each discipline.
Only one discipline in this project. It's a complete base wide arc flash and relabeling of equipment, updating panel schedules.

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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2017, 05:14:50 am »
I forgot about hole punching and using post anchors is option.

Might have to 1/8" bolts with wing nuts to get the length.  And you may have to use a thin flat bar (wood or metal) the full width along the binding edge.
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2017, 10:14:02 am »
Cerlox works for mid-size stacks, and allows it to open flat better than most other types.

Or you could get creative and just hand over a cheap tablet loaded with PDFs.
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2017, 01:58:33 pm »
I've literally bolted sheet sets together.  Preferably, chicago screws would be used, but shoulder bolts or minimal-thread-length screws with smooth shank are well enough.

It was silly.  Very silly.  But it was requested that a hard copy be bound.  Our office manager lady sat and put hole-reinforcement sticky things on every sheet, as well, before we assembled it all.  And we used a thicker binding 'comb' we fashioned out of some hefty card stock.  I guess it's a comb... or whatever you call the cardboard protectors that normally get stapled around the bound end.

ETA:  We used Cerlox up to a point but I think our biggest ones were like 1-1/2" dia or so.

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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 03:14:02 pm »
a .22 long rifle makes a perfect sized bolt hole in a large stack.  jut don't use hollowpoints though..
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2017, 11:29:19 pm »
Clamp the sheets with two pieces of wood along edge you can then use a power drill for the holes. not kidding.
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 07:39:15 am »
At my former employer..(where Krush works now  )

They had what I would describe as a "drill press" but was a hole cutter for just such a purpose.
It had a hollow cutting tube for a bit, about 1/4" diameter.

You would use binder clips to hold the stacks together and "drill" the holes in about 3 or 4 places along the binding edge.
Then use the appropriate length aluminum binding studs, and maybe washers if needed.
Or you could use bolts, nuts and sleeves as others suggested.

I agree to break them up by discipline, and then by type if needed (plans, elevations, sections, details) if that makes sense to the set.
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2017, 05:24:25 pm »
If you are looking for a way to handle a lot of paper - here are some links. Some of them are in German, but I think you will see what I mean:

Special drills for paper:
http://www.ing-jauch.de/paper%20drill%20bits.html
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papierbohren

Heavy duty punching machines
https://www.margreiter-technik.com/products/punching

Collar-nuts and (long) screws with special head:
https://www.kk-shop.com/shop/kataloge/en_EN/49/groups/1_2.php?lang=en_EN
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Re: Binding 750 pages
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2017, 08:41:37 pm »
At my former employer..(where Krush works now  )

They had what I would describe as a "drill press" but was a hole cutter for just such a purpose.
It had a hollow cutting tube for a bit, about 1/4" diameter.

You would use binder clips to hold the stacks together and "drill" the holes in about 3 or 4 places along the binding edge.
Then use the appropriate length aluminum binding studs, and maybe washers if needed.
Or you could use bolts, nuts and sleeves as others suggested.

I agree to break them up by discipline, and then by type if needed (plans, elevations, sections, details) if that makes sense to the set.
maybe break them up into people with tablets and get into this century. Lol https://www.bluebeam.com

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