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Dent Cermak

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Re: Delete Point All Groups
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2016, 09:23:25 pm »
Interesting thread; I haven't heard of Carlson since the days of Eagle Point software. Haha

Why do you use Carlson on top of C3D, dent?


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Carlson is alive and well and is the software of choice in my area among several smaller firms. With the new pricing structure Autodesk has come up with. several of the larger firms are looking at Carlson products.

I do not use Carlson on top of AutoCAD. Mine is a standalone package. The engineering types use it on top of Autodesk, which is a horrible waste of money in my opinion, because they say the program is easier to use, gives the same results and much more "intuitive". (I do not explain architects or engineers. Don't ask)

The company that I am with now is looking to open a Carlson Training Center to help people in the transition. The Boss thinks that a change is coming in our area and a training center will work well. When you live in the poorest state in the union, people are looking to save a buck wherever they can without sacrificing  accuracy or quality of work. So far we have had no problems in that area.

I realize that EVERYONE here is an AutoCAD fanatic and are very hesitant to change, I was too, but then we hit that economic wall that we could not ignore. It's all about the Benjamin's! So far we have lost nothing and have a product we can use that is fully compatible with our client's needs.

I just looked at this thread and saw something that I am able to do easily and automatically and the threads seemed to say this capability was not built in, so here's a lisp routine to fix that. Caught me a little off guard. Surely AutoCAD has a points pull down with this item as an option?
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Jeff_M

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Re: Delete Point All Groups
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2016, 10:23:42 pm »
Surely AutoCAD has a points pull down with this item as an option?
Nope, hence the reason for posting the lisp....nor is there an external file to just delete as you previously suggested (the Survey point groups may have this, but I don't use the Survey database).

Dent Cermak

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Re: Delete Point All Groups
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2016, 09:34:10 am »
Are you saying that there is no way built into AutoCAD to fully edit your coordinate file? Delete, edit, etc.?? Wow!! That will be a MAJOR issue especially once the drone technology goes full bore. Those are Huge files.
Can you at least do double click editing of the points on the screen? If you erase a point on the screen is the coordinate file updated in real time to reflect this change?
In Point Groups, you can delete points from a group, but that does nor delete it from the source file. As far as I know you cannot edit point attributes in point groups.
This issue is a "war stopper" for a surveyor. It appears that at some point the need for coordinate values goes away? So, you take my site survey and add your design details without worrying about coordinates, then do like Architects love to do, rotate everything to "look good' on the sheet and then hand the design to me and say, "Lay this out on the ground". The coordinate file no longer matches drawing details and they have erased my control points that I had shown in the drawing because "they got in the way".  :crazy2: :idiot2: Really.
Maybe this is why so many Surveyors have switched over "to the Dark Side". A Surveyor's world is ALL about coordinates. Autodesk wants me to pay 8 Grand for software that basically ignores coordinates?
I suppose this is one of the main reasons that our engineering types load Carlson on top of AutoCAD. They are using Carlson Civil which has full coordinate control, a hefty survey portion and a robust GIS module all built in.
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Dent Cermak

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Re: Delete Point All Groups
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2016, 09:46:10 am »
Getting back to the original question, to delete all point groups to clean up a drawing, you should be able to delete ALL groups at one time using the "Purge" command. (Or is this something else Autodesk has done away with? It HAS been awhile since I played with AutoCAD,)
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