Author Topic: Slowness of Tool Palette(s) (Read 6855 times)

MSTG007 · « **on:** July 15, 2016, 08:46:56 AM »

We are running 2016 Civil3D. I have noticed lately as I change tool palettes, its incredibly slow. Is anyone else having that kinda of problem? Our tool palette is stored on our network. The only fix I have found is to go to the options, Remove the tool palette path, Click OK. then go back into options and repath it and then its back to normal. Its just weird....

mjfarrell · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:35:26 AM »

what if you move them local, for a comparison of load times

or perhaps just prior to switching the palette, use windows explorer and refresh the drive path, does that alter the load time?

could be how your network drives/paths are being cached, and or network latency

MSTG007 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:39:40 AM »

We have tried what you mentioned. Same results. We also came across this article... It is interesting.. .

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-general/custom-tool-palettes-loading-slowly/td-p/2855668/page/3

mjfarrell · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:50:05 AM »

Quote from: MSTG007 on July 15, 2016, 10:39:40 AM

We have tried what you mentioned. Same results. We also came across this article... It is interesting.. .

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-general/custom-tool-palettes-loading-slowly/td-p/2855668/page/3

now I'm squinting at you like Samuel L. Jackson

did you post that to show you already had an answer to the problem you posted?

OR

WHAT!

MSTG007 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2016, 10:52:06 AM »

no, not at all. I wanted to share this is what I started with. After troubleshooting around like you mentioned, I finally did what I said above with repathing the tool palettes.

alanjt · « **Reply #5 on:** July 19, 2016, 11:26:40 AM »

Give only one person write-access to the network tool palettes folder.
Each time someone with write-access opens and closes cad, a tool palette is updated. If autocad thinks two people made edits to the same palette, it will create duplicates, which is the main culprit for the horrible lag.

For the ONLY person with write-access, leave folder read-only unless working in file.
Autocad will create a Palettes folder and a AcTpCatalog.atc file in whatever tool palette directory you specify.

Normally the tool palette path is set to map to the default (eg. g:\cadd standards\tool palettes) - will build tool palettes based on AcTpCatalog.atc file; instead, set the tool palette path to bypass the AcTpCatalog.atc file (g:\cadd standards\tool palettes\palettes). This will severely decrease load time.

MSTG007 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 19, 2016, 12:07:01 PM »

Interesting... I will give that a go. Thanks for the heads up!

alanjt · « **Reply #7 on:** July 19, 2016, 03:00:50 PM »

Quote from: MSTG007 on July 19, 2016, 12:07:01 PM

Interesting... I will give that a go. Thanks for the heads up!

Good luck.
There are several convoluted methods about editing the tool palette files after, but I've found this to be the simplest method.
I did add a secondary user folder for each person that allows them to create their own custom tool palettes if they see fit (stored on server).

MSTG007 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 19, 2016, 03:02:32 PM »

Now, that is smart. I like that idea.

rkmcswain · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:00:18 AM »

Quote from: alanjt on July 19, 2016, 11:26:40 AM

Give only one person write-access to the network tool palettes folder.

This ^^^^^^^^^

I'm sure that Autodesk is working hard on a more robust system of deploying/sharing/updating tool palettes (and TP Groups) as we speak.

MSTG007 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2016, 08:03:28 AM »

Just curious here, if you were to move away from Tool Palettes. What would you lean towards?

ChrisCarlson · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:27:09 PM »

Contexual ribbon panel

MSTG007 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:31:58 PM »

I wonder... How could / would you migrate a CAD Detail Library from the Tool Palette to the Ribbon....

mjfarrell · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:34:13 PM »

Quote from: MSTG007 on July 21, 2016, 04:31:58 PM

I wonder... How could / would you migrate a CAD Detail Library from the Tool Palette to the Ribbon....

build it...they wont use it anyway

mjfarrell · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:35:39 PM »

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU/AutoCAD-Core/files/GUID-78D92793-AE85-4383-B54A-ECFA39BDF402-htm.html

this is possibly the exact opposite of what you want

MSTG007 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2016, 04:36:47 PM »

Its amazing... Your right... Just the person who built it will use it. lol. Something about browsing Windows Explorer...

But still what would it look like I wonder... I guess back in the day we had the slides... I wonder if it would work like that?

alanjt · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:14:00 PM »

Why not just use tool palettes? They work well enough.

mjfarrell · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2016, 05:17:55 PM »

I could see real value in a 'context' sensitive ribbon having additional tools focused on the tasks associated with that context ribbon, if one's workflow facilitated it.

alanjt · « **Reply #18 on:** July 22, 2016, 09:09:11 AM »

Quote from: mjfarrell on July 21, 2016, 05:17:55 PM

I could see real value in a 'context' sensitive ribbon having additional tools focused on the tasks associated with that context ribbon, if one's workflow facilitated it.

That's an interesting thought.

ChrisCarlson · « **Reply #19 on:** July 22, 2016, 11:00:28 AM »

The ribbon panel has some very basic contextual features.

Editing an mtext - text properties
Have a hatch selected - hatch properties
etc

Wouldn't be hard if you had certain features, blocks or what not selected a pre-determined ribbon panel would take focus.

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Author Topic: Slowness of Tool Palette(s) (Read 6855 times)

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