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Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« on: July 07, 2016, 02:10:48 pm »
So, I was just told that for leader call out notes that are a complete sentence do not get a period. It doesn't make sense to me.

What if it has more than one sentence? Do you not use the period for the last sentence?

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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 02:15:47 pm »
I see that sometimes. Depending on the Call Out note given to us by the reviewer.

example:

Leader:
Contractor to clean up and repair road daily

Note:
Contractor to notify engineer of finds if different than what plans show.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 02:19:59 pm »
In plan callouts I use no periods. If there is more than one sentence they are merely broken up on different lines. Notes on the note page, however, get full, correct, punctuation.

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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 02:30:58 pm »
In plan callouts I use no periods. If there is more than one sentence they are merely broken up on different lines. Notes on the note page, however, get full, correct, punctuation.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 02:33:39 pm »
Interesting responses, so far. I've been using and teaching the use of periods for years. It's weird trying to relearn something you thought was gospel.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 02:48:08 pm »
Same here:


Leaders don't have periods, as they are usually pointing to something specific and telling the reader something about it.


Notes have periods, usually numbered bullets too.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 03:10:10 pm »
Interesting responses, so far. I've been using and teaching the use of periods for years. It's weird trying to relearn something you thought was gospel.

You going to go and unlearn those people you taught to do it wrong? 
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2016, 03:28:33 pm »
I take more issue with the overuse/abuse of hyphens like in the OP's screenshot.  If there are too many hyphens in a note, it leads to confusion as to when a sentence stops and where fractions are (eg. 1-1/2).   One symbol should not do the work of two just because you want to save a keystroke.   Thus I have no problem with periods when clarity is needed.

Thus my new "Hate" for a year with doing almost nothing but CA are notes in the construction documents that are not clear.   I will end up spending 30 minutes if a contractor calls me when the drafter/designer could have wasted 2 minutes by making the note clearer.   pid2: 
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2016, 03:42:16 pm »
I take more issue with the overuse/abuse of hyphens like in the OP's screenshot.  If there are too many hyphens in a note, it leads to confusion as to when a sentence stops and where fractions are (eg. 1-1/2).   One symbol should not do the work of two just because you want to save a keystroke.   Thus I have no problem with periods when clarity is needed.

Thus my new "Hate" for a year with doing almost nothing but CA are notes in the construction documents that are not clear.   I will end up spending 30 minutes if a contractor calls me when the drafter/designer could have wasted 2 minutes by making the note clearer.   :u  :knuppel2:lystupid2:
Yeah, that hyphen is really super annoying 
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2016, 03:55:43 pm »
Yeah, that hyphen is really super annoying
No hyphens are not annoying.   Just people are really super annoying.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2016, 05:11:01 pm »
Okay, I get that a single sentence can go without the period but it's not at all unusual for our drawings to have "leader notes" of a number of sentences long giving direction about what to do with the stuff they are pointing at. Similar to what you might see in keyed drawing notes.

Obviously, you need to use periods, period, end of sentence.

What about at the end of a paragraph, leave it off? That was my logic for using them at the end of sentences, aside from the obvious grammar thing. I don't know where I got it from. I might have even made it up myself.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 05:59:18 pm »
No -- hyphens are not annoying -- people are annoying.

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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2016, 08:19:55 pm »
So, surprisingly, we decided on an unwritten standard for this. We are going to recommend using the period at the end of complete sentences, be it one or multiple. No periods when it is not a complete sentence. Period, end of story, sayonara, goodbye.

That means I don't have to go back and fix all of our standard mechanical details, again. I'm not sure I would have had the time to delete all those periods, anyways.
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 05:58:23 am »
Late to the game but...

If this was a leader note, I would add a period at the end of this sentence. And, not one on the end of this one or separate by different lines
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Re: Drafting 101 Says No Periods
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2016, 06:34:58 am »
The consensus was that once one starts using them, it only makes sense to continue using them. We did touch on going to the next line of text when the sentence ends. Our drawings tend to be congested and it could be hard, possibly silly looking, and hard to read, if the sentences were of radically different lengths.
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