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Callouts
« on: April 26, 2016, 08:59:07 am »
It looks like an old standard from over 15 years ago is rearing its ugly head. Someone has had the bright idea to not show any work inside of callouts. so if we have a 1/8" scale floor plan and need to call out a mechanical room. We won't be showing any MEP work within the extents of the callout. I think this is creating more work than is necessary and is prone to errors, especially in Revit as users will have to apply properties to objects within the boundary.

I'm not sure I've seen anything like that before.

This is the way I've always done it. Show all the stuff but annotate only the major pieces and annotate the rest in the part plan.

(BTW, that is not my work in the example. It is just the first one that I thought of that was handy.)

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Re: Callouts
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2016, 09:02:52 am »
IF the end result is a much clearer/cleaner/ less cluttered presentation, making easier to build then it
achieves the goal of drafting it in the first place.

As you know we are not drafting for ourselves.

The purpose of the drawing is to ensure the thing can be built, made, or assembled by others that have no knowledge of that thing.
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2016, 09:11:06 am »
IMO which is only worth spit;  All annotation is in the enlarge plan and major scope of work geometry is shown in the originating plan. 

Think Movie Trailers.  Got to wet their appetite.
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2016, 09:21:36 am »
IMO which is only worth spit;  All annotation is in the enlarge plan and major scope of work geometry is shown in the originating plan. 

Think Movie Trailers.  Got to wet their appetite.
You're marketing it wrong.
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 09:22:36 am »
IMO which is only worth spit
You're marketing it wrong.
You are not married are you?
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2016, 09:44:16 am »
IMO which is only worth spit
You're marketing it wrong.
You are not married are you?

Yes, I am married, and have children; one of my own and a step-daughter.


And, yes I am sometimes (often) reminded or given the impression my opinion has less value than spider piss.


Thanks for reminding me!
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2016, 09:53:18 am »
IMO which is only worth spit
You're marketing it wrong.
You are not married are you?

Yes, I am married, and have children; one of my own and a step-daughter.


And, yes I am sometimes (often) reminded or given the impression my opinion has less value than spider piss.


Thanks for reminding me!
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2016, 10:44:55 am »
So here is a question I got. What settings should your "ANNOALLVISIBLE" be set to in Paper Space? 0 or 1?
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2016, 10:49:20 am »
So here is a question I got. What settings should your "ANNOALLVISIBLE" be set to in Paper Space? 0 or 1?
Your settings should be set to REVIT.    :wink:  :roll:
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2016, 10:52:04 am »
So here is a question I got. What settings should your "ANNOALLVISIBLE" be set to in Paper Space? 0 or 1?
Your settings should be set to REVIT.    :wink:  :roll:

That is correct.

As to AutoCAD, obviously you would not want to see annotation scales different from the one that the viewport is set to.
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2016, 10:53:21 am »
lol... I didn't clarify! Sorry. About in AutoCAD with Xrefs using Annotative Texts.
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Re: Callouts
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2016, 09:09:36 am »
I prefer your way.

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Re: Callouts
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 07:11:29 pm »
Element Hide is not too hard to achieve results. will have some maintenance but is still easy to maintain ..

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Re: Callouts
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2016, 06:35:28 am »
Element Hide is not too hard to achieve results. will have some maintenance but is still easy to maintain ..

In theory, yes, but it is far from ideal. Now we need to break every duct and pipe that goes into the area, add break marks, and re-hide elements when fittings are remodeled with size changes. It's just an unnecessary step that is prone to errors. I know there are going to be plans that go out with fittings floating around appearing to not be connected anything. I see too much of that already.

I just helped out with some plumbing plans with primarily vertical distribution. It almost looked silly to have so many floor plans with almost nothing but callouts on them. That's just my opinion, though.
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