Told my boss that 2018 was likely going to be a new dwg type and likely not backward compatible (we are still using 2014)... he basically told me to give Autodesk the bird lol... followed with (you can also tell them we aren't upgrading until 2020) haha....sucks because we're at 2014 still but nothing has convinced us upgrading is worth anything. Our production pipeline (with 70 or so constant cad users) doesn't need the 3 or 4 items they focus on every year
More people, and companies need to send this message very loudly to their vendor, and or Autodesk directly.
The development pipeline and lack of response to problematic features or functions within Civil 3d should be an embarrassment to Autodesk.
All of the crapply label functions and or lack of function in gravity pipes alone should cause every programmer/developer at Autodesk to quit in shame
over their total failure.