yes title block is @ 0,0, and the insertion point is correct....
For Randy, the issue is Autocad 'thinks' the paperspace IS where the black, or white paper outline is at....NOT where my title block is at.
So while you may not need to see the paper boundary....autocad does need to 'imagine' that it is the correct place.
As, stated I have a solution, it isn't optimal, I am seeking the cause to perhaps A)prevent it, or B)affect a better cure.