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snownut2

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Re: Question on how to create a wire basket or even a round tomato cage
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2014, 05:09:17 pm »

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sort of like the difference between how Barbie is modelled, and how real women are made.

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Re: Question on how to create a wire basket or even a round tomato cage
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2014, 08:27:40 am »
I would put the uprights of the tomato cage _inside_ the rings,  if the uprights area on the outside, then only the weld is available to resist breaking, and it won't.

I think you have crossed over from

How is it modelled?


Into the land of


How is it made?


Although it does help to know how a thing is made to model it most correctly.
Isn't that the whole idea?

Not really
As we observed earlier, the "tomato" cage has been modelled in a manner that is inconsistent with how the thing is actually made (manufactured).
Again! Then what is the purpose of this, very expensive, software we use?
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Re: Question on how to create a wire basket or even a round tomato cage
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2014, 08:42:17 am »
I would put the uprights of the tomato cage _inside_ the rings,  if the uprights area on the outside, then only the weld is available to resist breaking, and it won't.

I think you have crossed over from

How is it modelled?


Into the land of


How is it made?


Although it does help to know how a thing is made to model it most correctly.
Isn't that the whole idea?

Not really
As we observed earlier, the "tomato" cage has been modelled in a manner that is inconsistent with how the thing is actually made (manufactured).
Again! Then what is the purpose of this, very expensive, software we use?
Oh thats an easy answer... to draw/design/model stuff that nobody ever checks/builds from... isnt it?
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Re: Question on how to create a wire basket or even a round tomato cage
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2014, 09:27:11 am »
In this particular case, I'm taking you back to the Original Question:

How do you create 3d model of one or both from 2d to 3d, or do you have go 3d only? Any help you be grand! :-)
Also, I'm not looking for the complete step into rendering. Just wire-framing finish.

I attached examples


Thank you in advance

The question is not how do they manufacture these things, or what is a good way to manufacture them.
Those are different questions.

In product design there is a process between concept, function, design, and finally manufacturing.

I will point you to the AUDI TT auto, recognized as one of a few car show concepts that made it into production mostly unchanged.


So for this person the question "How do I model it" at this stage is probably a learning exercise.
Then I would trust followed by how do they build it, and how do I model it correctly?

Yes the 'purpose' of the expensive software is an accurate model.
However first one must know how to create the models.

Next we'll start wondering is the wire for that tomato basket galvanized? Hot dipped? Cold rolled mild steel?
TIG or Spot welded?  Will they make them on a Tuesday?  Will it be raining?

Is that basket Stainless steel, or is it double chrome plated?

All questions beyond the scope of the original question.
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Re: Question on how to create a wire basket or even a round tomato cage
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 11:18:15 pm »
nice drawing. good explanation.

not sure how I would draw it.

3 donunt commands
and 3 more vertical ones to connect em.
cut and paste as block

I would expect it is easier to draw the 3d object first and use solprof command to generate the 2d views.
I never liked creating 3d objects from 2d views so I don't usually go that route.
At first I thought the pictures were Autocad drawings rendered with 3dmax.