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CottageCGirl

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Very Basic ? from a Mosquito
« on: April 01, 2005, 02:36:47 PM »
Being self CAD taught and trying to learn AutoLisp completely on my own, I have some holes in my basic understanding of the "how to apply" area, some, I fear, are Scary basic-and probably far too numerous to list here.
Does anyone know of a good starter bible or website (other than the obvious Afralisp/Cadlyst etc)  I feel that without an onsite mentor, I am unable to stretch the gap myself...NOt for Trying.... :?

JOKE:  
Tech Support: "I need you to right-click on the Open Desktop."
Customer: "Ok."
Tech Support: "Did you get a pop-up menu?"Customer: "No."
Tech Support: "Ok. Right click again. Do you see a pop-up menu?"
Customer: "No."
Tech Support: "Ok, sir. Can you tell me what you have done up until this point?"
Customer: "Sure, you told me to write 'click' and I wrote click'."
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Chuck Gabriel

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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2005, 02:49:16 PM »
Visit http://www.dsxcad.com/ and click on the "Books" link on the left hand side of the page.  There you will find a free book called "The Visual LISP Developers Bible" in PDF format.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2005, 02:53:17 PM »
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Does anyone know of a good starter bible or website

What about here.  :wink:

There's no such thing as "to basic a question" for this place.  :)
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2005, 02:56:56 PM »
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Being self CAD taught and trying to learn AutoLisp completely on my own, I have some holes in my basic understanding...


I 'm in the same place. I have a few titles that were recommended to me.
Later this evening I'll post the titles/ authors that I got.  (Books are at home and I'm not.)
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JOKE:
Tech Support: "I need you to right-click on the Open Desktop."
Customer: "Ok."
Tech Support: "Did you get a pop-up menu?"Customer: "No."
Tech Support: "Ok. Right click again. Do you see a pop-up menu?"
Customer: "No."
Tech Support: "Ok, sir. Can you tell me what you have done up until this point?"
Customer: "Sure, you told me to write 'click' and I wrote click'."
(from ajokeaday.com)

Throwing in a joke with the request oughta net you quite a decent pile of advice.   :)

Here's a few helpful sites:
http://www.jefferypsanders.com/index.html
http://www.smadsen.com/
http://www.markcad.com/
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CottageCGirl

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thanks
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2005, 02:57:28 PM »
Chuck-thanks I'll try it
Mark, I love this site, but my ?'s are far to vast and i'm a research-aholic, so any resource is welcome.
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2005, 03:00:36 PM »
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... my ?'s are far too vast ...

Quick, someone get Stig on the red phone!
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Birdy
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2005, 03:39:29 PM »
Sorry, skipped your post by mistake
thanks- in advance :oops:
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2005, 04:03:37 PM »
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Chuck-thanks I'll try it
Mark, I love this site, but my ?'s are far to vast and i'm a research-aholic, so any resource is welcome.
If this place can't handle it, you're outta luck.  In the last 18 months or so, I've seen everything from basic (defun c:l () (command ".line")) to stuff that will give you Dent's hat size in microns.  I've learned more about programming here in the last 18 months, just reading other people's questions, than I did the first 18 years with AutoCAD.

Sometimes these guys will let you struggle through it to learn something, sometimes they'll just bang it out and give it to ya'.  But either way a question here is worth all the books I own.
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yes, I love you guys...
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2005, 04:12:42 PM »
and I have learned tons so far,
relax
I won't cheat on you with any other sites :P
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daron

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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2005, 04:40:50 PM »
Good!!! If you did, we might feel betrayed. :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2005, 04:41:26 PM »
Uh .. for the most part we try to maintain an "open relationship"
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Re: yes, I love you guys...
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2005, 07:41:14 PM »
Quote from: CottageCGirl
and I have learned tons so far,
relax
I won't cheat on you with any other sites :P

Here's another that you should take a look at: http://www.cadvault.com

Some of the folks there frequent here and vice versa. Between these 2 sites I haven't needed to look anywhere else for answers in a long time.
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Birdy

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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2005, 10:24:55 PM »
Sorry for the wait.  Ended up being a rather loooong 9 holes... and then dinner.
Here's the books I use:

"Autolisp Programming: principles and techniques" by Rawls
Pretty decent intro stuff. Kinda 'text-booky' (exercises, and stuff) r13 i think.

"Autolisp in plain english for non programmers" by George o. Head
Out of print, but available at discount clearing houses. (re)Search amazon :)
r12ish but very nicely written. Easy to grasp stuff with this one.

"The Autocadets guide to visual lisp" by Kramer
r14 based (?) A pretty good one to get to know your way around the vlide.

Still reading these. I usually want to dive into a routine that I need, and use these as references, but probably a better strategy would be to work through the examples as I read thru the books.  I think stuff would prolly sink in better that way. YMMV.

Hope this helps.  Others may have different opinions on these authors.
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« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2005, 08:10:30 AM »
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"Autolisp Programming: principles and techniques" by Rawls
Pretty decent intro stuff. Kinda 'text-booky' (exercises, and stuff) r13 i think.


I use this book too!
I have found it quite useful. The good thing about it seems to be the reference guides. I think it was written for r14, so some of the things in it wont be up-to-date. And also there is no mention of the Vlisp editor and how to use it.
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Thanks for explaining the word "many" to me, it means a lot.

daron

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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2005, 07:22:19 AM »
That's because it didn't exest then.^
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