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Orthographic Projection - like this??
« on: April 02, 2012, 09:07:32 pm »
Does anyone do it this way as shown in the screen shot below?

The CAD standards state that all elevations, building sections and sometimes wall sections must be down this way.   Obliviously for this simple shed (an out building to the main building of the project) there is no need for a building section that would be placed to the right (under) the right building elevation.  But as you can imagine there are when the building is more complex.   

This plays havoc with hatch origins to begin with.  Per the standards, I have to create rotated views in model space.  I then have to create a viewport for each view and rotate whatever viewports accordingly.  Whereas the way I am use to, we lined all the views horizontally and used one viewport for as many views as possible.  And there was no rotating of viewports unless it was unique situation. 


The only piece of explanation that I get for the logic behind it is that saves on rotating.  I am somewhat told rotating the floor plan XRef is evil. 

I am just looking to see of other people/companies are doing this and that the way I have been doing it since 98 is all wrong.  Once I understand the logic a value I will adapt it faster.   :| :|
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2012, 10:27:07 pm »
Are you not creating live sections directly from the model?  (or is the ADT, AKA Architecture?)
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2012, 11:29:54 pm »
Sorry this plain ole AutoCAD. 

BTW lets add dimension text direction is incorrectly displayed in a rotated viewport.  :realmad:
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2012, 04:46:35 am »
I'm going to suggest Saved Views (you probably already do this)
And Linking the Model Views to the Sheets using Sheet Set Mananger
And Dimension Styles/Layers per view (because I know they wont let you dimension in Paperspace like you should)
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2012, 07:14:44 am »
I have never done that type of projection with Arch, only mechanical.  In this case (because it is small) it would fit on one sheet.  Elevations would align (side by side) then the plan would go on the bottom left with the section on the bottom right (elevation along the top.  aligning the elevations allow for hatch origin to work across the elevations.

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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2012, 08:37:32 am »
This plays havoc with hatch origins to begin with.
Can't you just change your UCS origin/rotation and THEN hatch away, Hatch Master General?
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2012, 08:45:07 am »
The Hatch Master Seargent Major says use HPORIGIN
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2012, 12:44:40 pm »
The Hatch Master Seargent Major says use HPORIGIN
  Does not works as it should in a rotated view.  You have to adjust horizontal to get a vertical result.  In the example above the right view was showing the hatch with a 4" spacing 3.5" off the bottom edged (Slab Edge) when HPorgin is used.  I then have to use HPorgin again to trick it by going left or right to have it adjust to 4" off vertically. 

Can't you just change your UCS origin/rotation and THEN hatch away, Hatch Master General?
  I will have to check into that.
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2012, 12:46:53 pm »
I was looking to see if anyone has done this sort of layout before and the benefits in using it.  It would be an easier pill to swallow.  :cry:
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 01:03:31 pm »
It would be an easier pill to swallow.  :cry:
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 01:05:06 pm »
I keep all my sections and elevations on the same horizontal line to track heights between them correctly, then xref the plan, RCP, roof plan, etc above & below, xclipped, rotated and aligned with the elevation or section. The file regen sometimes gets slow and we have to break the files up, but it works the best for us to track changes from plans into elevations.

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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2012, 01:13:53 pm »
I use Revit.   :roll:
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2012, 03:50:27 pm »
I use Revit.   :roll:

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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2012, 07:16:21 am »
I keep all my sections and elevations on the same horizontal line to track heights between them correctly, then xref the plan, RCP, roof plan, etc above & below, xclipped, rotated and aligned with the elevation or section. The file regen sometimes gets slow and we have to break the files up, but it works the best for us to track changes from plans into elevations.

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That is the way that I am use to. But I am with a new employer now so I will bide my time.  **sigh**
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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2012, 08:02:39 am »
If these are 2d dwgs  a block of the side view placed both ways is quicker and more accurate to make

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Re: Orthographic Projection - like this??
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2012, 12:07:48 pm »
I always position elevations and sections horizontally level with each other so I can take heights off of one to any of the others.  I place plans vertically above each other for a similar reason.  I position everything relative to everything else so I can2 Bounce" positions off of 45 degree lines to get everything else.

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