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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2011, 03:27:34 PM »
Can do.  Actually "did do". Just sent out 15 of them.

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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2011, 03:29:51 PM »
Tested and Tested, chose C3D.  Just seemed more user/customization friendly, and I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 03:30:20 PM »
Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2011, 03:40:16 PM »
I don't do engineering design, but YES there is a package that can do engineering design that has all of the features in my survey pack and much more. There are pacs for mining, crime scene investigation, machine control and a neat takeoff package. Mikey, you just do not come of well with those little digs. You have seen the product line and you very well know that I know there is more than my one pac. I don't need to pay for all that other, so I don't.

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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2011, 03:46:03 PM »
WHAT in the worlds is DUBDOWN?
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2011, 03:46:49 PM »
I don't do engineering design, but YES there is a package that can do engineering design that has all of the features in my survey pack and much more. There are pacs for mining, crime scene investigation, machine control and a neat takeoff package. Mikey, you just do not come of well with those little digs. You have seen the product line and you very well know that I know there is more than my one pac. I don't need to pay for all that other, so I don't.

Actually I am not fully versed in the Carlson product line.

I though you said you were prepared for a little flak?  Even though that was an honest question; you don't seem ready.

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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2011, 03:47:27 PM »
Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)

Civil3D does well at that, however there are many survey firms that DO NOT do Engineering design, and therefore it is an unnecessary additional cost...
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2011, 03:48:01 PM »
I don't do engineering design, but YES there is a package that can do engineering design that has all of the features in my survey pack and much more. There are pacs for mining, crime scene investigation, machine control and a neat takeoff package. Mikey, you just do not come of well with those little digs. You have seen the product line and you very well know that I know there is more than my one pac. I don't need to pay for all that other, so I don't.

Actually I am not fully versed in the Carlson product line.

I though you said you were prepared for a little flak?  Even though that was an honest question; you don't seem ready.

I'm off to sleep...have a Great Day!


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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2011, 03:48:22 PM »
WHAT in the worlds is DUBDOWN?
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2011, 03:48:58 PM »
WHAT in the world is DUBDOWN?

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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 03:49:59 PM »
I don't do engineering design, but YES there is a package that can do engineering design that has all of the features in my survey pack and much more. There are pacs for mining, crime scene investigation, machine control and a neat takeoff package. Mikey, you just do not come of well with those little digs. You have seen the product line and you very well know that I know there is more than my one pac. I don't need to pay for all that other, so I don't.

Actually I am not fully versed in the Carlson product line.

I though you said you were prepared for a little flak?  Even though that was an honest question; you don't seem ready.

I'm off to sleep...have a Great Day!


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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »
UH, perhaps you need to "educate" yourself then. It's a very easy Google event.  :ugly: I really thought we had had the Carlson "go around" before. Surely you were not speaking "off the cuff"?  :-D

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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2011, 04:45:48 PM »
Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)

Civil3D does well at that, however there are many survey firms that DO NOT do Engineering design, and therefore it is an unnecessary additional cost...

Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)

And before you say "I told you so..." Carlson has a very nice Civil Design package. Carlson has done something AutoDesk doesn't want to consider, "Packages tailored to what the client needs." They don't have the "ALL or nothing" attitude that seems to be at AutoDesk, where profit & the bottom line are king...
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2011, 11:40:33 PM »
Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)

Civil3D does well at that, however there are many survey firms that DO NOT do Engineering design, and therefore it is an unnecessary additional cost...

Can it do Engineering Design?   ;-)

And before you say "I told you so..." Carlson has a very nice Civil Design package. Carlson has done something AutoDesk doesn't want to consider, "Packages tailored to what the client needs." They don't have the "ALL or nothing" attitude that seems to be at AutoDesk, where profit & the bottom line are king...
I will not disagree that autodesk has a very aggressive and greedy marketing practice. Nor that they tend to ignore their customer base in favor of large profits. Witness the trend to push their 'Suites' 'solutions' onto businesses.
Thankfully I do not work for autoddesk so I am free to voice that opinion.
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Re: Point File Example
« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2011, 09:43:21 AM »
Everyone selects a product that they are comfortable with. Their package does what they need to do and they know how to use the features that they need for the completion of their work.
For an engineering firm, there is no better product than AutoCad C3D. None. BUT not everyone works for an engineering firm.
I provide a service to engineering and architectural firms so one of my main concerns is product compatibility. We also provide services to government agencies that require Intergraph. We end up with multiple platforms and formats. It would be nice to be like many here and do work just for in-house use, but that is not my situation.
Running multiple platforms and setting "drawing standards" to client specifications can get rather complex and costly.
Thus my bottom line becomes COST. I must find a software package that maintains compatibility, performs all of the tasks that my area of specialization requires and yet is cost effective. I compared features I needed and MSLRP. AutoCad Civil 3D =$6,495 per seat. I need 10 seats. Carlson Survey with embedded AutoCad = $2,995 per seat. I think the choice was quite obvious.
I still like AutoDesk products, but they are not economically feasible for my company.
Have I lost any functionality in my selection? Absolutely not. I am on the same platform in the field as in the office. That has many advantages. I can maintain multiple template and figure prefix setups with no problem at all providing multiple clients with drawings compliant with their specifications. (I never could figure out how to do that in AutoCad, though that may have changed since the 2010 release. Honestly, I would not be surprise if the AutoCad new Field To Finish stuff is the same as Carlson's now.)
These products may be very similar now, except in that one, critical area; COST. That remains the bottom line.