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Segment Labels Format
« on: May 05, 2011, 09:25:56 AM »
I'm trying to use segment labels ('cause they're getting better every version it seems) again in my daily work. I do mostly boundary work. My label problem is the distance, I _need_ to have it after the bearing in all cases. If my lines are east-west its not a problem but north-south is. The distance is always in front of the bearing. Hope that makes sense! I can't seem to figure out the settings for switching them, assuming there is, of course!

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Re: Segment Labels Format
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 09:28:48 AM »
you are going to need two styles, or one good one.
set up the components in the label so that the distance is AFTER the Bearing...then it will behave
so a style like Bearing and Distance Above.. will always show the distance after the bearing.
OR send me a sample of your file to examine the 'bad' results.

this seems to work for me:

<[General Segment Direction(Udeg|FDMSdSp|MB|P4|RN|DSn|CU|AP|EN|DZY|OF)]><[General Segment Length(Uft|P3|RN|AP|GC|UN|Sn|OF)]>'   
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 09:45:15 AM »
I've never seen it swap the position of the bearing and label.

eg.
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<[General Segment Direction(Udeg|FDMSd|MB|P4|RN|DSns|CU|AP|EN|DZN|OF)]>  <[General Segment Length(Uft|P2|RN|AP|Sn|OF)]>'
I'm sure it's basically the same as Michael's.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 09:53:46 AM »
DUH ... now I see what ya mean. I was trying to do something else.

thank ya much.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 09:54:47 AM »
DUH ... now I see what ya mean. I was trying to do something else.

thank ya much.
well don't do that 


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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 09:56:21 AM »
DUH ... now I see what ya mean. I was trying to do something else.

thank ya much.
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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2011, 09:59:04 AM »
I've never seen it swap the position of the bearing and label.

eg.
Code: [Select]
<[General Segment Direction(Udeg|FDMSd|MB|P4|RN|DSns|CU|AP|EN|DZN|OF)]>  <[General Segment Length(Uft|P2|RN|AP|Sn|OF)]>'
I'm sure it's basically the same as Michael's.
OH no...
Your formatting is so much more lifelike than mine.
And your use of code tags, makes me look like an amateur poster.    ;-)

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« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2011, 10:02:02 AM »
I've never seen it swap the position of the bearing and label.

eg.
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<[General Segment Direction(Udeg|FDMSd|MB|P4|RN|DSns|CU|AP|EN|DZN|OF)]>  <[General Segment Length(Uft|P2|RN|AP|Sn|OF)]>'
I'm sure it's basically the same as Michael's.
OH no...
Your formatting is so much more lifelike than mine.
And your use of code tags, makes me look like an amateur poster.    ;-)


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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2011, 10:03:23 AM »
Truth be told, I wish I knew a fraction of what you know about C3D.
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« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2011, 11:39:27 AM »
so how do you guys handle the plat (P) dimensions in your labels? Or do you!
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« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2011, 11:39:53 AM »
It's friggin unbelievable what Michael Farrell can do with Civil 3D.  Thanks for all the help Mike, it's been greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2011, 12:02:29 PM »
I just have a secondary style with the (P) suffix, but I'd love to know what Michael does.
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« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2011, 12:06:11 PM »
so how do you guys handle the plat (P) dimensions in your labels? Or do you!
as in being able to show record, and or measured, or?
exacttly what formatting are these  Plat-tesque labels needing to be in?
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« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2011, 01:25:04 PM »
so how do you guys handle the plat (P) dimensions in your labels? Or do you!
as in being able to show record, and or measured, or?
exacttly what formatting are these  Plat-tesque labels needing to be in?
Yes. We are required to show; A comparison between recorded directions and distances with field measured directions and distances.
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« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2011, 01:26:38 PM »
I just have a secondary style with the (P) suffix, but I'd love to know what Michael does.
I thought about that too but then you'd have to have all kinds of lines in your dwg. So far the best solution I can come up with is just editing the label and adding 100'(P).
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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2011, 01:42:37 PM »
I just have a secondary style with the (P) suffix, but I'd love to know what Michael does.
I thought about that too but then you'd have to have all kinds of lines in your dwg. So far the best solution I can come up with is just editing the label and adding 100'(P).
why would you have to have all kinds of lines in your file?

you could have a label that was only (P)
linked to feature and then offset the usual distance...
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2011, 01:57:56 PM »
how do you 'link to a feature?
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2011, 02:06:16 PM »
I just have a secondary style with the (P) suffix, but I'd love to know what Michael does.
I thought about that too but then you'd have to have all kinds of lines in your dwg. So far the best solution I can come up with is just editing the label and adding 100'(P).
What do you mean by 'all kinds of lines in your dwg'? It's just a different style to which you can easily apply to certain line labels. You can do it through the right-click menu or use the LABELSTYLEEDIT command.

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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2011, 02:09:54 PM »
how do you 'link to a feature?
thanks
uh...you know...
on the LAYOUT TAB of the label style composer....
Achor Component <FEATURE>
Anchor Point
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2011, 02:14:22 PM »
My labels have to shown as N89°45'32"W 451.25(M) 451.0(P). *shrug*

how do you 'link to a feature?
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uh...you know...
on the LAYOUT TAB of the label style composer....
Achor Component <FEATURE>
Anchor Point
Settings
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2011, 02:16:14 PM »
My labels have to shown as N89°45'32"W 451.25(M) 451.0(P). *shrug*

how do you 'link to a feature?
thanks
uh...you know...
on the LAYOUT TAB of the label style composer....
Achor Component <FEATURE>
Anchor Point
Settings

Since it's a line to line change, I'd have to agree with your original idea that you would just have to edit them individually.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2011, 02:18:40 PM »
styles would still work for this....they would simply need REALLY good names.
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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2011, 02:22:15 PM »
styles would still work for this....they would simply need REALLY good names.
Yes, but he'd still have to edit each to plug in the PLAT distance since the linework reference by the label would be at a measured bearing/distance.
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2011, 02:23:48 PM »
styles would still work for this....they would simply need REALLY good names.
Well I would love to see a sample if you ever get the time to make one. :)
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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2011, 02:24:17 PM »
styles would still work for this....they would simply need REALLY good names.
Well I would love to see a sample if you ever get the time to make one. :)

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« Reply #25 on: May 05, 2011, 03:07:58 PM »
This is why I get heartburn when trying to use Labels.
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« Reply #26 on: May 05, 2011, 03:11:57 PM »
styles would still work for this....they would simply need REALLY good names.
Yes, but he'd still have to edit each to plug in the PLAT distance since the linework reference by the label would be at a measured bearing/distance.
uh, no...
because the PLAT parcel boundary is the one being labled

are you not stacking the survey data files?

SURVEY: this is what you found based on your calculations. Some prefer to place the calculated data in it's own file so that it and the found information never commingle.  Or be sure that ALL calculated data has really good descriptiors, I've had two recent experiences were calculated became accepted and the description wasn't changed.


PLAT: this file references the SURVEY from above.  This file contains the accepted plat lines.
The labels in this file can have wipeouts (background masks) in them to show or hide the record information if accepted. one the shows record distance, bearing, others can be added as needed for special cases.
It has this label style (R) applied to it with unique layer properties in the survey file.
These labels can then have a (P) plat style applied to them.
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