Topic: command switches in desktop icon???

[ELOQUINTET]

hey guys i have a question about this target i've put in a coworkers icon. it reads as such:

"C:\Program Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\acad.exe" /t "P:\Library\Autocad Related Stuff\00-A-Val Shop Drawing Template.dwt" /b setup

the problem is when autocad opens the help file opens up. why is this happening and how do i prevent this from happening?

[ELOQUINTET]

it is hanging up saying only:

insert where?

if i hit escape it continues it hangs up several times while loading the lisps i've tried to remove these lisps from startup suite but it just choses another

[ELOQUINTET]

here's my startup process, what a mess huh?

Loading AecBase...
Loading AecUiBase...
Loading AecArchBase...
Loading AecUtilities...
Loading AecArchX...
Loading AecScheduleData...
Loading AecScheduleDataArch...
Loading AecUiScheduleData...
Loading AecArchXM...
Loading AecDCArch...
Loading AecStructureBase...
Loading AecStructure...
Loading AecSchedule...
Loading AecUiSchedule...
Loading AecAreaCalculationBase...
Loading AecArchDACHBase...
Loading AecAreaCalculation...
Loading AecArchDACH...Substituting [arial] for [dim].
Substituting [arial] for [Univers].
Regenerating model.

DOSLib Version 5.1.1 (Jul 24 2000)
Copyright © 1992-2000, Robert McNeel & Associates
Initializing VBA System...AcadStatButton by ManuSoft. http://www.manusoft.com

Ltscale_Switch loaded by CAD-Novation. http://www.cadnovation.com.
Copyright © 2000-2001 CAD-Novation.

Plot Tabs is loaded, Enter PLotTabs to run.
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Type BAP to run.....
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
DDBrep v2.0 loaded
Command:
Dimarc - Version 2.0  Copyright 2002 by BCI Computer Solutions

Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:
Command:   DLINE loaded.
Command:
Command:
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Double Break Symbol Creator loaded.  Type DZ to run it.
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Insert where?
Command: *Cancel*
; error: Function cancelled

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Leader/Text Mover Loaded, Type LM to run
Yellow
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Type MB to Run
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-- Attribute Modification Utility Ver 4.0 -- start command with --> MODATT
-- Copyright (C) 1999-2003 by BCI Computer Solutions
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Move_Lay - Move All Entities on a Layer To A Different Layer.  Type MLA to
begin.
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-------------------> Use O2L to run Offset2Layer
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Yellow Loading PL2Cloud....
Enter PL2Cloud to run.
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Enter psText to add text.
Enter psText-edit to edit text.
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*-*  Rename Tab layouts Loaded, Enter rnl to run. *-*
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Text / Dimension Style Changer Loaded, Type TDS to run
Yellow
Text Increment Loaded, Enter TxtInc to run.
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 *-* Viewport Lock/Unlock Loaded. Enter vptog to run. *-*
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AutoCAD Express Tools Copyright © 2000 Autodesk, Inc.
_.menuunload
Enter the name of a MENUGROUP to unload:PartsNowPD
Menu unloaded successfully. MENUGROUP: PartsNowPD


Command:
Command: _.menuunload
Enter the name of a MENUGROUP to unload:PartsNowTB
Menu unloaded successfully. MENUGROUP: PartsNowTB


Command:
Command: _.menuload
Enter name of menu file to load: C:/PROGRAM FILES/PARTSNOW/PartsNowTB.mnu
Menu loaded successfully. MENUGROUP: PartsNowTB


Command:
Command: _.-toolbar Enter toolbar name or [ALL]: PartsNow
Enter an option [Show/Hide/Left/Right/Top/Bottom/Float] <Show>: _show

Command:
Command: _.menuload
Enter name of menu file to load: C:/PROGRAM
FILES/PARTSNOW/USR/DP_LIB/PartsNowPD.mnu
Menu loaded successfully. MENUGROUP: PartsNowPD


Command:
Command: -layer
Current layer:  "4-SYMBOLS"
Enter an option
[?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/LWeight/Plot/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock/stAte]:
ON
Enter name list of layer(s) to turn on: z-barcode Enter an option
[?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/LWeight/Plot/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock/stAte]:
Thaw
Enter name list of layer(s) to thaw: z-barcode Enter an option
[?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/LWeight/Plot/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock/stAte]:
P
Enter a plotting preference [Plot/No plot] <Plot>: N
Enter layer name(s) for this plot preference <4-SYMBOLS>: z-barcode Enter an
option
[?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/LWeight/Plot/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock/stAte]:
AutoCAD menu utilities loaded.
CCOUNT.LSP not found
CR.LSP not found  DLINE loaded.
EO.LSP not found
EPU.LSP not found
FU.LSP not found
ISOBLK.LSP not found
Leader/Text Mover Loaded, Type LM to run
LSB.LSP not found
Type MB to Run
MET.LSP not found
MF.LSP not found
MML.LSP not found
MR.LSP not found
MULL.LSP not found
OO.LSP not found
PAGESETUPS.LSP not found
PANE14.LSP not found
PANE18.LSP not foundPlot Tabs is loaded, Enter PLotTabs to run.
Enter psText to add text.
Enter psText-edit to edit text.
PT.LSP not found
REFL.LSP not found
RWORD.LSP not found
STAIRS.LSP not found
Text / Dimension Style Changer Loaded, Type TDS to run
ZT.LSP not found
Files Loaded.....
Dan is loaded.....Plot Tabs is loaded, Enter PLotTabs to run.
Type BAP to run.....
DDBrep v2.0 loaded
Dimarc - Version 2.0  Copyright 2002 by BCI Computer Solutions
; error: LISP application is already loaded DimTextOverRide
  DLINE loaded.
Double Break Symbol Creator loaded.  Type DZ to run it.
Insert where? *Cancel*
; error: Function cancelled

Leader/Text Mover Loaded, Type LM to run
Type MB to Run
-- Attribute Modification Utility Ver 4.0 -- start command with --> MODATT
-- Copyright (C) 1999-2003 by BCI Computer Solutions
Move_Lay - Move All Entities on a Layer To A Different Layer.  Type MLA to
begin.
-------------------> Use O2L to run Offset2LayerLoading PL2Cloud....
Enter PL2Cloud to run.
Enter psText to add text.
Enter psText-edit to edit text.
*-*  Rename Tab layouts Loaded, Enter rnl to run. *-*
Text / Dimension Style Changer Loaded, Type TDS to run
Text Increment Loaded, Enter TxtInc to run.
 *-* Viewport Lock/Unlock Loaded. Enter vptog to run. *-*Enter an option
[?/Make/Set/New/ON/OFF/Color/Ltype/LWeight/Plot/Freeze/Thaw/LOck/Unlock/stAte]:
*Cancel*

[CADaver]

ummm... you really need to clean that up.  You're loading several dozen functions at setup, any one of which may be your problem.

[ELOQUINTET]

sorry for the delay been out. is there a better way to load everything. i have a danloader lisp which looks something like this but does that load them upon startup so i could just put this lisp in my startup suite.

[/code](defun danloader (/ filelst)

  (setq
    filelst
    (list
      "BKH.LSP"
      "BL.LSP"
      "BLANK.LSP"
      "BLKSWP.LSP"
     )
    )
  (setvar 'cmdecho 0)
  (foreach n filelst
           (if (not
                 (findfile n)
                 )
             (progn
               (prompt (strcat "\n" n " not found"))
               (princ)
               ); progn
             ;else
             (load n)
             ); if
           )
  (setvar 'cmdecho 1)
  (prompt "\nFiles Loaded.....")(princ)

  ); defun[code]

[ELOQUINTET]

ok i got the lisp loading problem worked out on my computer but my initial question still exists. here's what i have in my icon but the help dialogue still pops up, why???


"C:\Program Files\Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3\acad.exe" /t "P:\Library\00-A-Val Shop Drawing Template.dwt" /b setup

[ELOQUINTET]

i have isolated the problem to the script because when i take it out it runs ok. here is the script can someone take a quick look see and tell me if they see the problem i can't find it? thanks

[ELOQUINTET]

sorry forgot to post the script. i'm new to this so maybe my formatting is causing a problem. anysuggestions?


;Normal: Retains current visibility of each attribute: visible attributes are displayed; invisible attributes are not
attmode 1
;
;turns blipmode off
blipmode off
;
;sets color to bylayer
cecolor "bylayer"
;
;sets linetype to bylayer
celtype "bylayer"
;
;if a command uses a dialog box the dialogue box will be shown displayed
cmddia 1
;
;sets the current layer to 0-GLASS
clayer "0"
;
;Display of absolute coordinates is updated continuously, and distance and angle from last point are displayed when a distance or angle is requested
coords 2
;
;controls the size of the cursor
cursorsize 100
;
;Demand-loads the source application when you open a drawing that contains custom objects or when you invoke one of the application's commands
demandload 3
;
;Creates associative dimension objects. The elements of the dimension are formed into a single object, and one or
;more definition points of the dimension are coupled with association points on geometric objects. If the association
;point on the geometric object moves, the dimension location, orientation, and value is updated
dimassoc 1
;
;For small dimensions text is moved outside
dimatfit 2
;
;Horizontally stacked fractions
dimfrac 0
;
;Distance text is from dimension line
dimgap 1/32
;
;No rounding of dimensions
dimrnd 0
;
;For small dimensions, text is placed above dimension line without a leader and can be moved freely without a leader
dimtmove 2
;
;always displays an outline of the object as you drag it
dragmode auto
;
;Displays file dialog boxes
filedia 1
;
;Sets fillet radius to 0
filletrad 0
;
;Objects are filled
fillmode 1
;
;Specifies the substitute font to be used if font is not found
fontalt arial
;
;Turns grid off
gridmode 0
;
;Turns grips on
grips 1
;
;Highlights selected objects
highlight 1
;
;Creates a polyline boundary when an area is hatched
hpbound 1
;
;sets the scale of the hatch pattern
hpscale 1
;
;saves a bak file
isavebak 1
;
;sets linetype scale to 1
ltscale 1
;
;Sets units to fractional
lunits 5
;
;Sets unit precision to 1/32”
luprec 5
;
;Sets lineweight display
lwdisplay 0
;
;Sets the maximum number of active viewports in a drawing
maxactvp 64
;
;Allows the user to hold down the middle button to pan
mbuttonpan 1
;
;prevents text from mirroring if any objects is mirrored
mirrtext 0
;
;Turns ortho on
orthomode 1
;
;Osnap settings
osmode 127
;
;Controls the point style
pdmode 3
;
;Controls the point size
pdsize 30
;
;Turns on pickadd. Each object selected, either individually or by windowing,
;is added to the current selection set. To remove objects from the set, press shift while selecting
pickadd 1
;
;Draws a selection window (for either a window or a crossing selection) automatically at the Select Objects prompt
pickauto 1
;
;Turns on pickfirst which allows  you to select objects before you issue a command
pickfirst 1
;
;Associative hatch selection
pickstyle 1
;
;Polylines in older drawings are converted when opened; pline creates optimized polylines
plinetype 2
;
;sets width of polylines
plinewid 0
;
;show proxy objects
proxyshow 1
;
;Viewport scaling governs linetype scaling. If tilemode is set to 0, dash lengths are based on paper space drawing units,
;even for objects in model space. In this mode, viewports can have varying magnifications, yet display linetypes identically.
;For a specific linetype, the dash lengths of a line in a viewport are the same as the dash lengths of a line in paper space.
;You can still control the dash lengths with ltscale
psltscale 1
;
;Preview image not created when inserting a raster image
rasterpreview 0
;
;The last used paths in each particular standard file selection dialog box are remembered across and within sessions.
;The Start In folder specified for the AutoCAD icon is not used
rememberfolders 1
;
;Sets autosave to 10 minutes
savetime 10
;
;Turns snap off
snapmode 0
;
;Turns today startup dialogue off
startuptoday 0
;
;Displays text as filled images
textfill 1
;
;Sets current text style to standard
textstyle "standard"
;
;Tiles drawing to modelspace
tilemode 1
;
;ucs does not affect the view
ucsfollow 0
;
;Xref-dependent layer changes made in the current drawing take precedence. Layer settings are saved with the current
;drawing's layer table and persist from session to session. Nested xref path changes are saved with the current
;drawing and persist from session to session
visretain 1
;
;Controls speed of the zoom command
zoomfactor 40
;
;;end of script

[ELOQUINTET]

i have another question if it's not a big deal concerning this. we are using architectural desktop 3.3. i remember seeing something like aecload in another persons machine how do i insure that all of the architectural desktop stuff gets loaded

[CADaver]

I don't use scripts for what you're trying to do here, as a simple space somewhere in the code will cause the problem you're having.  As far as I can tell the script is a series of system variable sets that can be accomplished with a lisp using:

Code: [Select]

(setvar "blipmode" 0)and the like.  Once built it can be initialized in several ways with a startup function attached to an MNL.

That said, that's how we load user functions, through a menu specific MNL that uses (AUTOLOAD to load functions only when needed.  There's no need to load several dozen functions if you're not going to use them.

[ELOQUINTET]

yeah cadaver i had started something like that but wasn't sure which road would be best i can modify that and see thanks for the advice. here's my start:

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(defun c:sanity()  
   (setvar 'acadlspasdoc 1)
   (setvar 'apbox 0)
   (setvar 'attdia 1)
   (setvar 'attmode 1)
   (setvar 'blipmode 0)
   (setvar 'cecolor "bylayer")
   (setvar 'celtype "bylayer")
   (setvar 'cmddia 1)
   (setvar 'clayer "0")
   (setvar 'coords 2)
   (setvar 'cursorsize 100)
   (setvar 'demandload 3)
   (setvar 'dimassoc 1)
   (setvar 'dimadec 2)
   (setvar 'dimgap .0312)
   (setvar 'dimatfit 2)
   (setvar 'dimfrac 0)
   (setvar 'dimtmove 2)
   (setvar 'dimrnd 0)
   (setvar 'dragmode 2)
   (setvar 'filedia 1)
   (setvar 'filletrad 0)
   (setvar 'fillmode 1)
   (setvar 'fontalt "arial")
   (setvar 'gridmode 0)
   (setvar 'grips 1)
   (setvar 'highlight 1)
   (setvar 'hpbound 1)
   (setvar 'hpscale 1)
   (setvar 'isavebak 1)
   (setvar 'ltscale 1)
   (setvar 'lunits 5)
   (setvar 'luprec 5)
   (setvar 'lwdisplay 0)
   (setvar 'maxactvp 64)
   (setvar 'mbuttonpan 1)
   (setvar 'mirrtext 0)
   (setvar 'orthomode 1)
   (setvar 'osmode 127)
   (setvar 'pdmode 1)
   (setvar 'pdsize 30)
   (setvar 'pickadd 1)
   (setvar 'pickauto 1)
   (setvar 'pickfirst 1)
   (setvar 'pickstyle 1)
   (setvar 'plinetype 2)
   (setvar 'plinewid 0)
   (setvar 'proxyshow 1)
   (setvar 'psltscale 1)
   (setvar 'rasterpreview 0)
   (setvar 'rememberfolders 1)
   (setvar 'savetime 10)
   (setvar 'snapmode 0)
   (setvar 'startuptoday 0)
   (setvar 'textfill 1)
   (setvar 'textstyle "standard")
   (setvar 'tilemode 1)
   (setvar 'ucsfollow 0)
   (setvar 'visretain 1)
   (setvar 'zoomfactor 40)
)  
(c:sanity)
(princ "\n  take a deep breath and count to 10.....")

[CADaver]

That'll work, but if you're gonna run it at the start of every session there's no need in making it a defined function (unless you wish to use the same during a session to reset).  I've explanded mine to cover EVERY setvar available.

[ELOQUINTET]

basically i've included this lisp in a startup lisp which contains other stuff and i've put that and a few other things in my startup suite rather than putting tons of individual lisps in the startup suite. thanks

[CADaver]

basically i've included this lisp in a startup lisp which contains other stuff and i've put that and a few other things in my startup suite rather than putting tons of individual lisps in the startup suite. thanks

Have you looked in AUTOLOAD yet for that behemoth of lisp routines you're loading?

[ELOQUINTET]

i kinda see what you mean i may consider doing that when i have some more time but this works for now thanks