Topic: cad standards documentation needed

[TimSpangler]

Layers?  They come in as needed.

[hyposmurf]

Im trying to do the same thing.I have the dim style,common layers such as VPORT,TEXT,TITLE,TEXT STYLE etc set up to.Ive thought about having templates for each group of services,like small power,lighting etc but no job uses just one set,theyre all so different.Im also setting my tool palettes up.Currently I have all the blocks I need set in my tool palettes and thought great I can create a layer template drawing.I thought I could add every layer that I'm likely to use to this drawing,then assign each block in my template to its particular layer.Then I'll just insert the block I need and the layers would all be created,saving me time.Problem I have is that the same block is used on services that are on different layers .For instance a isolation valve can be on a heating layer and a cold water services layer.I might end up with tons of blocks in tool palettes,how many can AutoCAD take before it gets the grump.

[ELOQUINTET]

yeah the blocks i have are callouts titleblocks and some fasteners that's about it

[hyposmurf]

Have you not predefined a layer in your tool palette for your fastners?Or am I assuming wrong you dont use tool palettes?

[TimSpangler]

I still use toolbars for inserting block (it the only thing I use them for)./  THis way I can insert the same block on differant layers.  If the layer isn't in the drawing then it gets added on the insert.  I also have a layer creator that I use to create layers as needed Layer Creator Post
I am thinking about using something similar to creat dimstyles, textstyle etc.  This way everything is standard and they could be added to older drawings as well.

[ELOQUINTET]

yeah don't use 2004 so no palettes here. the creator sounds cool tim keep us posted

[M-dub]

Here's what happens at my location:
Blocks are inserted a number of ways.  Blockwerx, Toolbars, slide libraries and plain ol' DDInsert.  The blocks aren't loaded into the templates or anything like that...well, the few that make up the border (Title block, rev block, etc.)
Layers are all set up in the templates, because if they weren't, it's very likely that people wouldn't know enough to create the right ones with the proper names and other settings.  Should the layers happen to be purged out, I have a block contains a list of all standard layers and each layer name is ON that layer.  It also contains the linetypes that we commonly use here.  When the block is inserted into a purged drawing, it brings in all of the layers with it.  It's almost like a 'layer recovery' block, I suppose.
Dimension Styles are all pre-loaded in the stanard border templates as well...

my 2¢...

[Bob Garner]

Layer recovery block.  What a simple but effective solution to the layer purge issue.  One of those "why didn't I think of that?" things.

Thanx for the tip.

[M-dub]

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[CADaver]

Layer recovery block.  What a simple but effective solution to the layer purge issue.  One of those "why didn't I think of that?" things.

Thanx for the tip.

I use lisp functions for that.  One re-builds ALL layers to standard.  Another allows the selection of desired current layer from a pull-down, if it doesn't exist, it will create it based on client standards.

[hyposmurf]

How about the standards checker in 2004/5?This will check your preconfigured company standards file (.dws) against the existing drawing/s.Have any of you used it?
Developing CAD standards
drafting manual

Found reference to the following standards in a specification at work, but I cant any information on them.Thyre British standards,anyone use them?


BS EN ISO 13567-1:2002    Technical product documentation. Organization and naming of layers for CAD. Part 1 Overview and principles

BS EN ISO 13567-2:2002    Technical product documentation. Organization and naming of layers for CAD. Part 2 Concepts, format and codes used in construction documentation

[cyxou]

Hi guys!
Sorry for digging up this topic.....but I prefer to write in existing one rather create new.
Having working on CAD Standard for my company I'm very curious how it should be done well. Much time have passed since the last message in this topic was written, and, of cause, your cad standards changed since then.... Would anyone please send me his standard to see how it is going on in your company. I'll be very appreciated 

My email is in my details

I would like to thank TimSpangler for his LayerCreator. I'm planning to use it in my Standard.
By the way, Tim, have your created the same program for Text and Dimension Styles? I would like to have it

[skennedy]

Unfortunatley ours is under lock and key.  One suggestion is to look at more like a users guide with standards in it.  Break down useful tools and proper settings, but in an instruction book method.  I do not know if it will work for you, but that is what I used for my company and anyone from drafter to engineer can use it.  I hope this helps.

-S