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#### Arizona

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##### "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« on: September 27, 2007, 11:15:51 AM »
If a technician inserts a border that is 30” x 42”
Into a drawing that is at an unknown scale…
And that technician has to scale the border up or down to fit around the contents
Then the technician prints this drawing to a piece of paper using a “scale to fit” option

What is the actual size of the drawing?

The "E Size" drawing used for this test came out at 26-1/4” by 36”

Is it only me that is missing the logic here?

#### deegeecees

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 11:32:44 AM »
Is there any way to check a dimension against a distance command?

#### Greg B

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 11:39:05 AM »
97% of the scale it was printed at

#### Josh Nieman

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 11:43:44 AM »
There's no scale to the drawing other than a "bastard scale" as we call it.

Using scale to fit, and using the randomly scaled title block as the plot area extents introduces variables to the plot scale multiple times, which makes it not a set scale.

The way I deal with it is usually take an engineer's scale and place it on a hopefully-round-number dimension like 50' or 100' or something, and try to match it up to tick marks on one of the scales, and jot down a note for reference, such as (1.2" = 100') or something.  It's usually a very nasty number that requires a lot of calculator work to work with the drawing.

Otherwise I'd suggest LE's method, if you are trying to fix the 'problem'
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 11:44:47 AM by Josh Nieman »

#### LE

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2007, 11:51:22 AM »
Otherwise I'd suggest LE's method, if you are trying to fix the 'problem'

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(this LE's needs more coffee....)

edit by me base on:
http://www.theswamp.org/index.php?topic=19105.msg232090#msg232090
« Last Edit: September 27, 2007, 01:14:22 PM by LE »

#### deegeecees

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2007, 11:54:59 AM »
I was wondering where you went.

#### LE

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2007, 12:00:11 PM »
I was wondering where you went.

Did a quick, water check of the parrots.....

#### deegeecees

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2007, 12:09:08 PM »
I was wondering where you went.

Did a quick, water check of the parrots.....

*singing to "The Offspring" 's version of "Gotta Keep Em Separated"*        "Gotta keep em hy-drated!"

#### Josh Nieman

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2007, 12:10:39 PM »
I was wondering where you went.

Did a quick, water check of the parrots.....

*singing to "The Offspring" 's version of "Gotta Keep Em Separated"*        "Gotta keep em hy-drated!"

I'm hungry... the only bird's I'm thinking of Better be marinated

#### deegeecees

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2007, 12:15:09 PM »

#### Arizona

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 12:15:37 PM »
Actually this was originally created in Microstation... but the Cad system is independent of this thought process...

And my fix is much more hard core!

#### Josh Nieman

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2007, 12:17:25 PM »
Actually this was originally created in Microstation... but the Cad system is independent of this thought process...

And my fix is much more hard core!

Yea, I went back to edit my post to take account for Microstation, and I'm not sure, but I thought someone had mentioned Microstation having a similar paperspace/modelspace interface, so I left my post as-is until I knew otherwise.

#### Arizona

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2007, 12:53:00 PM »
Yea, I went back to edit my post to take account for Microstation, and I'm not sure, but I thought someone had mentioned Microstation having a similar paperspace/modelspace interface, so I left my post as-is until I knew otherwise.
They do have something "similar". You xref the model to a sheet.

However, since I know you come across these same kind of issues (the kind that makes you say...WTF were they thinking?), I thought we needed a place where we could put them.
I wasn't really asking anyone to solve the issue. It was more of a "Do people really think?" type of question.

#### Rob...

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2007, 01:04:09 PM »
Why would you put air diffusers and tags and remove VAV boxes from a piping drawing just prior to 90% progress submission?

#### Josh Nieman

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##### Re: "Stupid" Cad Question of the Day
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2007, 01:05:47 PM »
Yea, I went back to edit my post to take account for Microstation, and I'm not sure, but I thought someone had mentioned Microstation having a similar paperspace/modelspace interface, so I left my post as-is until I knew otherwise.
They do have something "similar". You xref the model to a sheet.

However, since I know you come across these same kind of issues (the kind that makes you say...WTF were they thinking?), I thought we needed a place where we could put them.
I wasn't really asking anyone to solve the issue. It was more of a "Do people really think?" type of question.

I'm sorry, I didn't think of it as a repeatable thread like the "Dontcha jus' hate" types.  I thought you were trying to ask for a solution