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Amsterdammed

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Export to collages who can't install
« on: August 31, 2007, 09:55:41 AM »
Hi,

I just started my first project with opendcl and I love it.
 :laugh:

I was doing some stuff in VBA before so it looks pretty familiar. My problem is that i work for a big company with stupid IT rules and security,
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so none of my collages can install stuff on their maschines.

So what (and how ) do i need to pack  to make my stuff run on my collages computers?

Thanks in advance,


Bernd

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 11:17:24 AM »
They will need to install the OpenDCL Runtime, and they will need your .lsp and .odcl file (or you can embed the odcl project inline inside the .lsp file to eliminate the need for the .odcl file).

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 10:14:57 PM »
Owen,
thanks for the quick  reply. There is no way skipping the installing? This is exactly what my company's IT policy prohibits, would be  a major bummer if I could not use open dcl. I cant load the runtime like an arx?

Thanks in Advance
 Bernd

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2007, 11:34:44 PM »
...........  I cant load the runtime like an arx?

Thanks in Advance
 Bernd

You just need to get each user to run the 'OpenDCL.Runtime.ENU.4.1.0.4.msi ' (or the current Version) on their machines.
.. would that suit you ?

The ARX will demand Load after (command "OpenCL") from your code.


added : there are ways that you can force an install of the MSI , but the above may be the easiest for you and your users if you have strict user policys ... just locate the MSI on your server and have the ItDude run it from each machine.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 11:40:01 PM by Kerry Brown »
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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2007, 11:55:16 PM »
Afterthought ..

If your ItDude won't play ..
You could include the OpenDCL.xx.ARX with your code and load it conventionally from code ... Updating versions should not be a problem providing the ARX is not in use when the file is updated.
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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 08:29:21 AM »
Kerry,
thanks, No The Dude(s) won't play, that because it means work to them and they don't care about the design department. They think they are the main purpose of our company, but well sell mechanical and electrical installations, not IT services. So i will have to play around them.

Taking the chance that this q will make me look pretty stupid:  :?

 I cant find any arx file in the whole folder, is there something major i overlook?

Thanks

Bernd

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 08:52:41 AM »
Check: [..]:\Program Files\Common Files\OpenDCL\
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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 09:31:35 AM »
I cant load the runtime like an arx?

You can load the .arx manually, but then you'll need to manage it manually. :)

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 07:12:09 AM »
Crank,

There she was...  :-D

Thanks, never would have look there :ugly:

Seems to work on my maschine, Monday i will try it with one of my collages.


Thanks,

 Bernd


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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 07:27:15 AM »
Crank,

There she was...  :-D

Thanks, never would have look there :ugly:

............

Have a look at the Help file : Introduction->Installation ... 
and the link at the bottom of that page to Loading Projects and Forms
The last paragraph titled Explicit Loading on that page will help.

Are you sure you can't run the MSI on each machine ??



« Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 07:30:14 AM by Kerry Brown »
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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2007, 09:58:08 AM »
Owen,
 
what would i have to manage? Just the load?
And how can I embed the odcl code in a lisp?

Thanks in Advance

Bernd

Amsterdammed

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2007, 10:02:35 AM »
Kerry,

thanks.

The Probelm is that we have a lot of offices spread over the Netherlands. I don't want the IT dudes to be involved in anything i do, because I don't want to take the blame for their mistakes, and if anything goes wrong, it is never them to blame.

But i guess with manual loading it will work pretty cool for the user, I don't want to teach them new things, just get better dialogs from me.

Bernd

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 07:29:29 AM »
what would i have to manage? Just the load?
And how can I embed the odcl code in a lisp?

You will need to make sure files are kept up to date  If you use any third party application that also needs OpenDCL, you'll have to figure out how they can live together without interfering, and uninstall properly without breaking each other.

For embedding the odcl inline, just save a project from the editor with an explicit .lsp filename extension (i.e. you have to type it yourself), then copy and paste the contents of that .lsp file into your lisp file in the same style as the DistSample2.lsp sample file.

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Re: Export to collages who can't install
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 08:47:21 PM »
Thanks Owen for you patience and great help.! :-)


Bernd