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Josh,I think you're trying to say you cannot detach nested xrefs...Ron
It appears that is the problem. But only with this model. We have several other models with 150# 300# , or 450#_steam and they all xref in and out. I have asked that everyone not use these symbols in the past for files names but it seems that once again we are straying from our standards. Trying to resolve this found many more problems with layers, page setups and dwt files not being used correctly. Thank you for everyones help I lurk around here quite a bit and always find useful information