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Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« on: June 21, 2007, 07:36:41 PM »
It's been a long time since I have worked for an electrical engineer, and I can't seem to remember clearly.  I'm remembering that the telephone is an empty triangle, and data is a filled triangle, and then a combo outlet is a half filled triangle.  :ugly:

If this is wrong please describe the correct way, or post an image.  Thanks.
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 03:42:36 AM »
In my company that's exactly what we use.
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 04:43:09 AM »
Same here

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 09:00:21 AM »
Ditto for me as well
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 01:01:56 PM »
Thanks guys.  Good to know I didn't lose that much memory.  :-)
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 08:43:21 AM »
I know this is an old thread, but...

I'm working on a job right now to show all of the phone jacks, ethernet ports, PA speakers, etc. for the entire site.  We have the same symbol (solid and hollow triangle) but I'm wondering what everyone else does as far as labelling these.
So, for each triangle, I have to be able to show the ethernet port number and the telephone extension number.


I'm just curious to see what others are using.  Anyone want to share an example?  Even a screenshot will do.

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2010, 09:36:48 AM »
I have dwgs for all of these if you need them



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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2010, 09:58:15 AM »
That would be awesome!
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2010, 10:52:23 AM »
I see that you have an offer for blocks already. So I'll just throw this out there.

When I was mapping the networks I was responsible for, I used attributed blocks for the Telco/Cat 5 plugs
there was also information that I included as to what router/port number each office or connection was connected where...

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2010, 10:58:28 AM »
That's what I started out with... the majority of our blocks are attributed.  They're handy, but I have to get a little 'creative' with this job due to space constraints.  IT don't really know what they want to show, either.  This job isn't the greatest one I've ever worked on.  A few people who have an idea of what to do, but no one really "KNOWS".

If you were offering up an example, I'd love to see it.  Thanks for the suggestion, anyway.

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2010, 11:09:08 AM »
That's what I started out with... the majority of our blocks are attributed.  They're handy, but I have to get a little 'creative' with this job due to space constraints.  IT don't really know what they want to show, either.  This job isn't the greatest one I've ever worked on.  A few people who have an idea of what to do, but no one really "KNOWS".

If you were offering up an example, I'd love to see it.  Thanks for the suggestion, anyway.

I would really have to dig around to find a 'recent' example...
however a description should work...

Create a Block of the Router, add attributes to Each port, one for port number, another for the wall outlet in the office
I did a floor plan in CAD...each office had blocks with attributes for the PC Name, and ALL other information about the PC.
Each printer or plotter also attributed with Plotter Make/Model IP Address if hard coded (none IF using DHCP to assign IP's to devices).  Also equipment closets were shown to assist in planing cable runs to stay within limits of CAT5 and or wireless routers.  Basically a searchable schematic usable to troubleshoot or even inventory the network components.

Keep in mind all of this falls apart pretty quick if the patch cables don't get ID TAGS attached to BOTH ends of them.
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2010, 11:14:53 AM »
Yeah, that's basically what we're doing.

I wanted to do a little more than what the job warrants, but that's typical.

We'll see how this pans out.  :)

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2010, 12:36:01 PM »
These blocks look simple enough to combine into one dynamic block. 8-)

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2010, 12:37:03 PM »
Yeah, if I only had the time... :roll:

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2010, 12:40:10 PM »
Yeah, if I only had the time... :roll:

Shouldn't take too long? Send em to me and I'l do it  :-P

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2010, 12:44:42 PM »
I'll see what I've got this afternoon or tomorrow morning and go from there.  I'm on a different rush job right now.

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2010, 05:15:47 PM »
These blocks look simple enough to combine into one dynamic block. 8-)

I would recommend against this if you were going to extract the information to either a table or excel.  Dumb blocks with attributes worked very simple for this and subsequent adding of additional attributes.  Sometimes the KISS method is the better option. 

Currently I have a project for the fire alarm devices for a hospital.  They need only one attribute visible but I have 6 attributes set to invisible.  The client kept changing his mind on what information was needed based on who was going to be using the document.  This is a very key point or points.  You need to find who is going to use this doc and what information they need from it.  The client has 4 different departments that uses my document and the resulting excel file.  Simple blocks made easy to update file for this two year and counting project.

Also tables worked great for me when Space was tight on a floor plan.

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2010, 07:34:39 PM »
The first Page I posted is from the CORP library with 500 to 1000 blocks, Linetypes
Electrical, Arch, Civil, Etc.......
The A/E/C CAD Standard Release 4.0 folder has a pdf with all the blocks and description. The blocks are in the symbols folder, you have to drill down in the General Dowmloads to find it    https://cadbim.usace.army.mil/CAD


Also they have a standard detail library where you drag and drop into AutoCAD https://cadbim.usace.army.mil/default.aspx?p=s&t=13&i=17

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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2010, 08:01:44 PM »
I am getting security error when I try to access those links.  Anybody else getting an error.  Oh Yeah, I am using FF.
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Re: Electrical sysmbols, telephone and data outlets
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2010, 08:13:08 PM »
I use to get security errors there is something wrong with the certificate you have to download it.
I would upload it but it is too many megabytes


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