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daron

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« on: June 25, 2004, 09:24:49 AM »
I work with a lot of "Designers". As you know "Designers" aren't cad people. They are the ones who learned cad as an off-shoot to their studies. I've taken some time to try and put together some write-ups, using the help files as a basis, to help teach them to better use Autocad. There's one concept that the help file can be confusing to read: Overlay xrefs.

My question: Can anybody come up with a one-page instructional to help non-cad people, who use cad, understand the Overlay concept? I thank you in advance.

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2004, 09:47:58 AM »
WOW... i call that a standard honestly...
I try to document my standard with image steps ....  so it will be more than one page... but its easier for them to see what step they are at.. for non and regular cad peeps.... then i have a PDF with all the info or a hard back binder with the info in there....
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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2004, 10:20:05 AM »
I have a sheet from our cad standards in pdf format.  I think it explains them pretty well.  If you'd like them I can send them to you.

Ryan

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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2004, 11:33:41 AM »
Ryan, please do. You can upload it to the lily pond or email them to me. Just post a link to it if you choose to upload it. Thanks.

P.S. I was trying to explain them in my own words, but just couldn't seem to put something together that they would understand.

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2004, 11:45:06 AM »
Me Daron, You Designer...
Designer No Touch Acad!
Bad Designer!
Daron Good!

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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2004, 11:51:51 AM »
LOL so true....  but sometimes you can teach a guy who knows no cad to just PLOT!

:)  saves alot of time on cad guy
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2004, 01:00:40 PM »
Quote from: Daron
I work with a lot of "Designers". As you know "Designers" aren't cad people. They are the ones who learned cad as an off-shoot to their studies.


Quote from: M-dub
Me Daron, You Designer...
Designer No Touch Acad!
Bad Designer!
Daron Good!


Substitute Engineer for Designer.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2004, 01:03:54 PM »
I was actually substituting Designer for Engineer from a conversation I had this morning with one of them here!  ;)

He still didn't understand...

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2004, 01:21:14 PM »
Yours either......anyone know of an engineer obedience school in the south/central Missouri area?
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2004, 01:22:44 PM »
Ours keep marking territory.  :shock:
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2004, 01:46:54 PM »
Most common comment from an Engineer I used to work with "What's taking you so long, I can do that in 15 minutes." AAAGGHH!!!

Right, and you'll follow all the standards too.

No, I'll draw it then you can make it look pretty. AAAGGHH!!!
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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2004, 02:54:38 PM »
No, mine need to touch acad. That is why I need to help them know more. I want to do certain things here, so I need to increase their "comfort level" with their ability to use the program. I'm giong by the rule of implement 5 changes and one will stick.

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2004, 02:56:08 PM »
I feel your pain, I'll see what I have in my files for you.
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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2004, 10:52:37 PM »
ummm... excuse me... but... ummm... uhhh...
most of us (including me) are designers (2 yr techies or better) .  Some of our best operators have master degrees in Civil Engineering.  We only have a handful of CAD drafters.
...
so... umm...
...if...
...ummm... ...you don't.. umm... mind...

WATCH YER MOUTH


...oops.... sorry...
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2004, 12:19:41 AM »
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ummm... excuse me... but... ummm... uhhh...
most of us (including me) are designers (2 yr techies or better) .  Some of our best operators have master degrees in Civil Engineering.  We only have a handful of CAD drafters.
...

so... umm...
...if...
...ummm... ...you don't.. umm... mind...

WATCH YER MOUTH


...oops.... sorry...
:D


Good for you CADaver, you seem to have a optimal arrangement, the understanding of the Engineers. Most I have worked with barely know how to open a drawing. Not to mention how to follow the written standards given them, they figure that since they are the engineer they know how to do it all "WITHOUT ANY TRAINING" or "WITH A ONE DAY SEMINAR" and "NO EXPERIENCE" drafting, laying out plans ...

OOPS sorry, got on the "Soap Box" it's just a little frustrating...
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