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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 11:23:02 AM »
So we agree that there IS a time when layer "0" is OK?
Again, an exception to the "rules".....
As I read these posts, I am seeing more of these exceptions. interesting, isn't it?
Is the goal of this forum "Standards", to eventually come up with a set of same?  It would be quite interesting to compile what we are doing here.....relevant to each dicipline.  This could then be used as a "guide" for those contemplating initializing or updating CAD standards in their own setting.......

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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2004, 11:42:16 AM »
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So we agree that there IS a time when layer "0" is OK?
Again, an exception to the "rules".....
As I read these posts, I am seeing more of these exceptions. interesting, isn't it?
Is the goal of this forum "Standards", to eventually come up with a set of same?  It would be quite interesting to compile what we are doing here.....relevant to each dicipline.  This could then be used as a "guide" for those contemplating initializing or updating CAD standards in their own setting.......

My take on this = and I wish I could spend more time on my response = is that the goal here is to identify the issues that typically require addressing by a standard. While "we" are not likely to agree whether "this" should be "here", or that "it" should be "there", we can agree that "it", "this" and "that" require specification -- and that is precisly what I'm trying to do by my posting of subjects. :)

Still, while we may not agree as noted above, I think the dialogues, complete with the justifications for this and that are useful, if for nothing else than to broaden our understanding of all the different ways CADD can be used ...

... and abused. :)
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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2004, 01:26:37 PM »
It's obvious that a "One Standard Fits All" cannot exist. The idea is to make STANDARD what works best for your particular office.
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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2004, 02:24:18 PM »
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So we agree that there IS a time when layer "0" is OK?

In terms of this thread, no -- never in xrefs.

In general, yes -- for blocks that need to inherit layer properties.

It may not be this absolute, but here it's easier to say "yes" and "no" than "well, maybe sometimes."

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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2004, 02:26:14 PM »
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So we agree that there IS a time when layer "0" is OK?

In terms of this thread, no -- never in xrefs.

In general, yes -- for blocks that need to inherit layer properties.

It may not be this absolute, but here it's easier to say "yes" and "no" than "well, maybe sometimes."


Good rule of thumb, thanks Kate
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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2004, 02:28:31 PM »
I realize that there will not be a "one-size-fits-all", but it might be nice to create an "outline" of what to look for when creating/updating a set of "stadards".....Maybe once we get enough input, some of us could sift through the results and come up with this "outline" and make it a "sticky" at the top of this thing.......just my feeble brain spinning out of control.  Reason I'm going here in the first place...I was asked a while back to set up a set of "standards" for the various diciplines.....I got nowhere for all the afore mentioned reasons.  I thought that if we could compile our results here, they might be useable elswhere.....

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3. XREFs shall have no entities on layer "0".
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2004, 09:18:59 PM »
FOR US Layer 0 is used only for blocks and xrefs, that will be inserted on specific layers that we wish to take on the parameters of that layer.  And that is how it is explained in our standards.  Likewise, layer defpoints is used for nothing.