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Krushert

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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2006, 05:00:35 PM »
..... place annotation in paperspace (where it belongs ;-)) .....
Yeah that would seem logical if your are a Vulcan.   :-D

We place annotation in model space (just how we do it).
If i need to know where the viewport is in model space, I draw rectangle over my viewport and used the "change space" command.  The command is express tool however in 2007 it became a core command.


Just another way to do it.   :-)

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Sorry opened mouth (fingers) before reading all.   :oops:
« Last Edit: November 17, 2006, 05:05:26 PM by Krushert »
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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2006, 05:25:45 PM »
..... place annotation in paperspace (where it belongs ;-)) .....
Yeah that would seem logical if your are a Vulcan.   :-D
Darn, I thought the hat covered me pointy ears.

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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 05:28:14 PM »
Doesn't Alan have a viewport guide lisp function around here some where??

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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2006, 05:32:04 PM »
Doesn't Alan have a viewport guide lisp function around here some where??
This link in this post in this very thread.
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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2006, 05:37:17 PM »
(in my own case, I place the xref-clipped in any area on the model-space - when I am not using the Sheet Set Manager)
I used to do it this way, but for me it was just easier to use 0,0,0.

Yes - me too - what I was saying is that for example I have my base drawing drawn on 0,0,0 - then I xref it into any new sheet(dwg) and dropped anywhere (mostly/always from the 0,0 quadrant) - then if I need to have first floor plan & second floor plan - I simple call the xclip and leave those particular floors in different location - also I need to reference an enlarge area - in different scale, - I have my own setscale routine that I use for all my dimension and annotations (and yes I also like the idea of having general annotations on upstairs (paper)) - (using the sheet set manager - I simple do my views, give them the right name - and call the internal command placeview - from the SSM tree - much easier).

man... to much typing - I know.

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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2006, 06:01:02 PM »
Doesn't Alan have a viewport guide lisp function around here some where??
This link in this post in this very thread.
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Re: Aligning Paperspace Viewport with Modelspace
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2007, 06:01:17 PM »
I set it all up in our templates for the main sheet sizes we use. D and E size sheets.

I'll explain if anyone wants to read on...

Basically our company border is referenced into paperspace. The exterior outline of the border is traced along with the inside limits of the border. This is converted into a block and inserted into modelspace. This is now the limits of the border. All objects that you want to display must fit within the inside box.

The first block is 1:1 scale, so if its a 24x36" sheet the dimensions are 24"x36". This block is copied and scaled for every scale we use, (arch). 1,2,4,8,12,24,48, etc., I may create a metric but we hardly do metric.

These blocks are placed up against each other (on a locked layer) (1:1 starting at 0,0,0 at the lowest left hand corner) and basically arrayed horizontally across modelspace. Custom views are created for each scale that allow the user to enter a command that "redirects" them to that view. Example: V48 (View 48 scale - modelspace only) will redirect the user to the block/view scaled at 48. Users can place all drawings that are meant to be displayed at 1/4" = 1'-0" scale.

In paperspace I have a viewport for every scale we use that is zoomed in to it proper scaled border/block in modelspace. The viewports are custom polygon viewports as I added tabs to designate the scale and each can be picked or use (crtl+r) to cycle through them. Viewports are display locked and set on a locked layer.

To create gridline patterns the user must refedit the modelspace border outline and add the necessary grid lines. Refclose>save and you have your gridlines. Now, the grid borders are turned off in all viewports so the gridlines will not show up in paperspace. What I've done was insert the same block in paperspace (xclipped to only show only the inner border) and placed it on a layer with a lineweight that displays our gridlines nicely.

It seems to work for me. Users need not create viewports at all. No scaling to be done as it is all preset. If you know what scale you need to work in go to modelspace, enter the hotkeys to get to your preset scaled view and place your drawing within the border limits of that scale. Done.

Takes some time to setup but saved me alot of time in the long run. Only problem I thought of was people peaved with unused viewports and the array of unused blocks.

Some pics: