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sinc

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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2006, 11:45:27 AM »

If you already have Civil 3d, you are almost certainly on subscription and you will have Civil 3D available.  I would install it and learn everything I can about it, but only as an individual exercise at this time.  If something new comes along or Bentley comes knocking with a full featured demo, my door is open wide.


I know that if someone has a viable solution, they have the ear of MY company...

The big thing with us is we just can't take the unreliability.  Autodesk seems to have no concept AT ALL of reliable software.

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Dent Cermak

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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2006, 02:36:28 PM »
So what you are saying about the new Civil3D is that the wisest thing to do with it is not install it? I agree.
Now here's an oddity. I have the Civil3D Companion with my LDD package. So far it aooears to work fine. BUT then, I don't use a LOT of that package.
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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2006, 04:43:22 PM »
So what you are saying about the new Civil3D is that the wisest thing to do with it is not install it?

For my purposes, it is probably an unnecessary release.  There are some new features I would like to try, but not enough to commit the entire office to using 2007 just to keep our drawings compatible.  Everybody higher than me on the company pecking order uses AutoCAD like it was release 9 and stop just short of suggesting that the whole office might be better off if that is exactly what everyone was using.   We are, and and this is a real quote from our design engineer yesterday "throwing stuff up on a wall to see what the city will let us get away with".   In such an environment, most of the functions of even Land Desktop are unused.  The only reason Civil 3D was tried was a problem with design changes not being fully updated throughout the drawing set - apparently the risk of errors is less threatening than losing the ability to fudge the drawings to make them look good and deal work out any problems in the field.

Now here's an oddity. I have the Civil3D Companion with my LDD package. So far it appears to work fine. BUT then, I don't use a LOT of that package.

It sounds like the package you have is the Land Desktop thrown in as a courtesy with the Civil 3D.  With this release Civil 3D was intended as the replacement for the Civil Design and Survey packages.  I think Survey may be dead now and the old Civil Design can still be had for the die-hards, but under its own license and subscription for a sizeable bag of nickles.  As far as its working correctly, good for you.  Perhaps you held your mouth in exactly the right way and used all the curse words in proper order.  Be cautious though because sinc's problems are being reported by numerous others.
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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2006, 08:22:28 PM »
No. My LDD 2007 is made up of LDD2007, the Survey Package(2007) and the Civil3D Companion(2007). All are 2007 versions. I guess they decided to hold off for another year. (maybe they knew Civil3D was broken, but they had "deadlines".)  ^-^
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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2006, 06:42:41 PM »
sinc,


I have tried and tried and can not duplicate your error. I can change the entire groups style, and or individuals within the group; all without error.  Are your machines all better than the advertised minimums?
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sinc

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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2006, 09:12:55 AM »
sinc,


I have tried and tried and can not duplicate your error. I can change the entire groups style, and or individuals within the group; all without error.  Are your machines all better than the advertised minimums?

The bug was fixed in Civil 3D SP1.

It's this item, from the Sevice Pack README:

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An issue with using the Point Editor to change point styles, point label styles, or point layers has been resolved. The Point Editor now responds appropriately when you change these items.

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Re: Civil 3D - Some Things It Is UNWISE To Do
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2006, 10:37:23 AM »
Interesting, as I never installed any service pack, yet???
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