Topic: Annotative Attributes Within an Annotative Block

[Rob...]

Need some help with annotative scaling variables. Somehow I changed one that affects the size of an attribute within a block.

When I inserted a block the attribute would scale twice, once for the annotation scale that was set for the drawing and then again by the same factor. In other words, a 3/32" attribute in a block would scale 96 times when inserted into a drawing set to 1/8"=1'-0" then another 96 times, giving me text that was so big it hid the linework in the block.

It has been reset but I really need to know what variable it was because this changes my understanding of annotative blocks with text in them.

[ChrisCarlson]

I've never heard of this before. Do you have a scale set (other than 1:1) when you enter block editor?

[Rob...]

I'm not editing the block(s).

This happened with a fresh start of AutoCAD in a clean drawing. Resetting my profile fixed it but when I re-initiated my old profile the behavior returned.

[Crank]

If the block is annotative, then the attributes must no be annotative. If you make the attributes annotative as well then they will scale twice.

Annotative attributes are seldom used: They are only useful if the block doesn´t have to scale (1:1), but the text size has to!

[mjfarrell]

Interesting artifact...

I always let the attributes be whatever size I want them to be at, and know that the block scaling
will take care of the text size being proper based on annotative scale.


I wonder if I have been using annotative text style with my attributes and somehow getting away with it?

[Rob...]

If the block is annotative, then the attributes must no be annotative. If you make the attributes annotative as well then they will scale twice.

Annotative attributes are seldom used: They are only useful if the block doesn´t have to scale (1:1), but the text size has to!

That is exactly what I thought, until today. It has been proven otherwise. I'm thinking this is a new "feature".

[montyLalor]

I have found that too with attributes in blocks.

I only make blocks that have no attributes annotative.

Most of my blocks (which are electrical-discipline-type symbols placed on supplied plans brought in as xrefs) have annotative attributes. These I cannot make globally annotative. This means, however, I have to rescale the symbol geometry and annotative text placement coordinates and annotative attribute annotative scale upon initial insertion to reflect the scale of the building plan. I go through this small amount of pain at the beginning of each project so that I can alter the block's rotation angle and still have the annotative attribute maintain the 'align with layout orientaion' property. If my symbol block is inserted with a rotation angle of, say, 45°, then the annotative attribute is still horizontal, legible and more professional than a seemingly random angle (particularly if the building plan is uniquely obscure and has gridlines at all sorts of rediculous angles!).