Topic: AMD X2 vs Intel Core 2 Duo

[t-bear]

Hi guys & dolls....
Looking into new CAD stations and we've been reviewing these two processors.  Wondering what your opinion is on the two.  I'm an AMD fan (as you know) but this new Intel *looks* h-o-t................comments?  Thanks kiddies!!

[Chuck Gabriel]

Based on the limited information I could find, it looks like Intel has won back the performance lead for the time being.

[Mark]

Here's some reading for ya ....
[ http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2795 ]


*edit*

one more ...
[ http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/07/14/core2_duo_knocks_out_athlon_64/ ]

[Chuck Gabriel]

Counterpoint (keep in mind that Tom Yager could be referred to as an AMD "enthusiast"):

http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/07/05/28OPcurve_1.html

...Intel also managed to lure at least two journalists to its site to perform benchmarks on unreleased, overclocked Core 2 Duo systems, the results of which were published alongside benchmarks of AMD’s Athlon 64 FX-62 , a shipping CPU that AMD sent directly to reviewers so they could test them without vendor interference. The market still has plenty of reason to remain skeptical.

[Bob Wahr]

Counterpoint (keep in mind that Tom Yager could be referred to as an AMD "enthusiast"):

That's one way to put it.  He writes with the objectivity of zealots everywhere.

[Chuck Gabriel]

Biased though he may be, you have to wonder if there is a grain of truth to what he says about the benchmarking.  It certainly wouldn't be the first time a high tech vendor attempted to skew public opinion through the use of rigged benchmark comparisons.

[Bob Wahr]

Oh, it wouldn't surprise me at all.  He needs to realize that using a tone like that will make people less likely to belive him though.  If/when I listen to All Things Considered I take everything said with an enormous grain of salt due to their extremely liberal slant.  Ditto that the other direction for Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, et al the other direction.

[kevin]

Here is a benchmark for a HP nx9420 notebook I bought abouth a month ago, 2.0Ghz dual core.  I have been very impressed with it.

This was done with Performance Test 6.0 www.passmark.com

Benchmark Results
Test Name   2GHz Core Duo Notebook-test4 Run.gif
CPU - Integer Math   148.99   -
CPU - Floating Point Math   471.75   -
CPU - Find Prime Numbers   512.22   -
CPU - SSE/3DNow!   3859.03   -
CPU - Compression   3968.37   -
CPU - Encryption   25.71   -
CPU - Image Rotation   645.76   -
CPU - String Sorting   2029.55   -
Graphics 2D - Lines   116.40   -
Graphics 2D - Rectangles   59.92   -
Graphics 2D - Shapes   26.21   -
Graphics 2D - Fonts and Text   82.82   -
Graphics 2D - GUI   76.22   -
Graphics 3D - Simple   749.49   -
Graphics 3D - Medium   150.21   -
Graphics 3D - Complex   29.64   -
Memory - Allocate Small Block   1476.66   -
Memory - Read Cached   1423.46   -
Memory - Read Uncached   1384.16   -
Memory - Write   929.24   -
Memory - Large RAM   457.95   -
Disk - Sequential Read   38.18   -
Disk - Sequential Write   37.22   -
Disk - Random Seek + RW   2.14   -
CD - Read   2.01   -
CPU Mark   1034.72   -
2D Graphics Mark   293.72   -
Memory Mark   419.30   -
Disk Mark   280.42   -
CD Mark   245.65   -
3D Graphics Mark   297.42   -
PassMark Rating   509.85   -
System information - This Computer
CPU Manufacturer:GenuineIntel
Number of CPU: 1 (2 Core(s)/CPU, 1 Logical(s)/Core)
CPU Type: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2500 @ 2.00GHz
CPU Speed: 1994.8 MHz
Cache size: 2048KB
O/S: Windows XP
Total RAM:2146807808 Bytes
Available RAM:1254707200 Bytes
Video settings: 1680x1050x32
Video driver
DESCRIPTION:
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
MANUFACTURER:
ATI Mobility Radeon X1600
BIOS:
BK-ATI VER009.012.002.007.019432
DATE:
03/29/06
Drive Letter: C
Total Disk Space: 67.7 GBytes
Cluster Size: 4 KBytes
File system:NTFS

PassMark(TM) PerformanceTest 6.0 (http://www.passmark.com)
Results generated on: Saturday, July 22, 2006

[Mark]

Here is something to compare against.

[ http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/mark/BenchmarkResultsDellPrecision650.htm ]

[kevin]

Here is something to compare against.

[ http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/mark/BenchmarkResultsDellPrecision650.htm ]

Mark,

How did it do using a full test?

[Chuck Gabriel]

Oh, it wouldn't surprise me at all.  He needs to realize that using a tone like that will make people less likely to belive him though.  If/when I listen to All Things Considered I take everything said with an enormous grain of salt due to their extremely liberal slant.  Ditto that the other direction for Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, et al the other direction.

The frothing at the mouth does tend to detract from his credibility a little, doesn't it?

[Kerry]

Here's a 2 Core 3.40GHz

Nothing special, just a development machine

[Chuck Gabriel]

Here are the results for my work machine.  It skipped the 3D tests because I don't have DirectX 9 installed, and I didn't bother with the CD tests when it asked me to insert a CD.

http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/chuck_gabriel/BenchmarkResults.htm

[Mark]

Here is something to compare against.

[ http://www.theswamp.org/lilly_pond/mark/BenchmarkResultsDellPrecision650.htm ]

Mark,

How did it do using a full test?

I didn't run the full test, was concentrating on the CPU and drives mainly.