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Title: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 07:43:22 AM
Windows 8.1 x64
.Net Framework 4.6.1

I can't install AutoCAD 2015 x64 Enu... Installer writes that AutoCAD can't be installed because the .Net Framework 4.5 is not installed on my computer. But:

Quote from: Microsoft
The Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6.1 is a highly compatible, in-place update to the Microsoft .NET Framework 4, Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5, Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.1, Microsoft .NET Framework 4.5.2 and Microsoft .NET Framework 4.6. The offline package can be used in situations where the web installer cannot be used due to lack of internet connectivity.

This quote is from here (https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=49982).

So, AutoCAD 2015 installer works incorrectly. I thought that I can uninstall .Net 4.6.1 and install .net 4.5 (and install 4.6.1 after AutoCAD installing), but I don't see .Net Framework 4.6.1 in the installed programs or Windows components (therefore I can't uninstall .Net 4.6.1).

How can I solve this problem?
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: MickD on August 24, 2016, 07:50:26 AM
Why can't you just install .net 4.5?
You can have (and probably need) multiple versions as some app's that you have installed may still depend on these. I'd install 4.5 then try again, it will find it :)
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Rob... on August 24, 2016, 07:51:50 AM
Why can't you just install .net 4.5?
You can have (and probably need) multiple versions as some app's that you have installed may still depend on these. I'd install 4.5 then try again, it will find it :)

I agree.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:08:45 AM
Why can't you just install .net 4.5?
I tried to do it before I created this topic. It is impossible, because .Net 4.5 installer writes that newer .net version already is installed.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:13:07 AM
Quote from: MickD
You can have (and probably need) multiple versions as some app's that you have installed may still depend on these. I'd install 4.5 then try again, it will find it :)
No. Please, read Microsoft quote in my first message. .Net Framework 4.0-4.6.1 are not individual versions of .Net Framework. It is the same version. They are updates of .Net 4.0. All these versions even have the same CLR version: 4.0.30319.42000.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: ChrisCarlson on August 24, 2016, 08:26:24 AM
How are you installing AutoCAD? I remember seeing .NET installs during the installation of AutoCAD.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Rob... on August 24, 2016, 08:28:58 AM
Have you come across this yet?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-remove-and-reinstall-the-Microsoft-NET-Framework.html
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
How are you installing AutoCAD? I remember seeing .NET installs during the installation of AutoCAD.
I do the same like for any other AutoCAD version (2009-2017): I mount ISO-image and launch its setup.exe file.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: mjfarrell on August 24, 2016, 08:33:24 AM
I too recently had to uninstall all NEWER versions of .dot net to get an application to install properly. (Not autodesk product)

However once the old .net was removed, and the older version was installed, installation went fine.

Afterwards, I then upgraded newer version of .net without issues with any already installed applications.


So...while technically 'the same', the version matters.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:36:45 AM
Have you come across this yet?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-remove-and-reinstall-the-Microsoft-NET-Framework.html

I wrote in my first message:
Quote
I thought that I can uninstall .Net 4.6.1 and install .net 4.5 (and install 4.6.1 after AutoCAD installing), but I don't see .Net Framework 4.6.1 in the installed programs or Windows components (therefore I can't uninstall .Net 4.6.1).

So, when I tried to do this:

Quote from: Autodesk
2. Uninstall everything that starts with "Microsoft .NET," doing newest versions first.
then I see nothing items.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Rob... on August 24, 2016, 08:43:57 AM
Since it is not there to uninstall, did you try installing it?
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: rkmcswain on August 24, 2016, 08:46:16 AM
Quote from: Andrey Bushman
Windows 8.1 x64
.Net Framework 4.6.1

I can't install AutoCAD 2015 x64 Enu... Installer writes that AutoCAD can't be installed because the .Net Framework 4.5 is not installed on my computer.

Have you seen this?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Error-NET-4-5-is-not-installed-when-attempting-to-install-Autodesk-2016-products-on-Windows-10.html (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Error-NET-4-5-is-not-installed-when-attempting-to-install-Autodesk-2016-products-on-Windows-10.html)

I was able to do this to install service packs that originally complained of the same error.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:46:54 AM
Since it is not there to uninstall, did you try installing it?
Did you try to read my Reply #3?
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:49:43 AM
Also I tried this advice (http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017/solution-error-installing-autocad-2015-windows-8-1-10/td-p/5835997) by Autodesk.
I saw only additional services of .Net Framework 4.5 (look the attached screen).
This advice didn't help me. I get the same problem.

So, both Autodesk advices  don't work: this (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-remove-and-reinstall-the-Microsoft-NET-Framework.html) and this (http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017/solution-error-installing-autocad-2015-windows-8-1-10/td-p/5835997).
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 08:51:34 AM
Quote from: Andrey Bushman
Windows 8.1 x64
.Net Framework 4.6.1

I can't install AutoCAD 2015 x64 Enu... Installer writes that AutoCAD can't be installed because the .Net Framework 4.5 is not installed on my computer.

Have you seen this?

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Error-NET-4-5-is-not-installed-when-attempting-to-install-Autodesk-2016-products-on-Windows-10.html (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Error-NET-4-5-is-not-installed-when-attempting-to-install-Autodesk-2016-products-on-Windows-10.html)

I was able to do this to install service packs that originally complained of the same error.
No, I didn't see it. Thank you, I will read it now.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
Hm... From here (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-remove-and-reinstall-the-Microsoft-NET-Framework.html):
Quote from: Autodesk
As an optional step to get a complete clean removal of the .NET files, run the .NET Framework Cleanup Tool. Here is the download page:
.NET Framework Cleanup Tool User's Guide (http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/pages/8904493.aspx)
But this tool doesn't remove .Net Framework... Look my screens. After computer restarting I see the same like 0.png. If I try to install .Net Framework 4.5 then I get the message that it (or its newer version) is already installed.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 24, 2016, 09:53:09 AM
In the log-file I see such strings:
Quote from: LOG-file
...
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Attempting to stop the service 'httpfilter'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] ***WARNING*** Failed to open the service 'httpfilter'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Found entry msftpsvc, performing action now
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Attempting to stop the service 'msftpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] ***WARNING*** Failed to open the service 'msftpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Found entry nntpsvc, performing action now
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Attempting to stop the service 'nntpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] ***WARNING*** Failed to open the service 'nntpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Found entry smtpsvc, performing action now
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Attempting to stop the service 'smtpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] ***WARNING*** Failed to open the service 'smtpsvc'
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Found entry w3svc, performing action now
[08/24/16,15:28:23] Attempting to stop the service 'w3svc'
[08/24/16,15:28:25] Successfully stopped the service 'w3svc'
[08/24/16,15:28:25] Found entry iisadmin, performing action now
[08/24/16,15:28:25] Attempting to stop the service 'iisadmin'
[08/24/16,15:28:25] ***WARNING*** Failed to open the service 'iisadmin'
...
So, this tools dosn't work for me.
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 25, 2016, 08:36:02 AM
This problem decision is here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYZb6woCnKg).
Title: Re: AutoCAD 2015 & .Net Framework 4.6.1
Post by: Andrey Bushman on August 25, 2016, 08:38:34 AM
I edited link.