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CAD Forums => Vertically Challenged => Land Lubber / Geographically Positioned => Topic started by: BlackBox on September 16, 2015, 11:37:26 AM

Title: Civil 3D | Criteria-Based Design Checks
Post by: BlackBox on September 16, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
I've been able to cull most of what I needed from The Manual of Uniform Minimum Standards for Design, Construction and Maintenance for Streets and Highways (http://www.dot.state.fl.us/rddesign/FloridaGreenbook/FloridaGreenbook.pdf) (aka "Greenbook") via the FDOT Civil 3D 2015 State Kit's ..\corridor design standards\ folder (available  here (http://www.dot.state.fl.us/ecso/downloads/software/FDOT2015CADDSoftware.shtm)).

What's missing - and this may be a lack of functionality on the part of Civil 3D? - is the ability to check for maximum change in grade between two Profile tangents (i.e., +2.0% --> -0.50%, etc.)?

All of the K value tables are there to check Vertical Curves already added to a given Profile, but seemingly no means by which to identify (using Design Checks) when a Vertical Curve is required at a given PVI.

Any help would be most appreciated.

Cheers
Title: Re: Civil 3D | Criteria-Based Design Checks
Post by: mjfarrell on September 16, 2015, 02:20:06 PM
you are correct C3D is deficient in that one can NOT specified max grade change to trigger automatic vertical curve and or warning flag.
Title: Re: Civil 3D | Criteria-Based Design Checks
Post by: BlackBox on September 16, 2015, 03:03:03 PM
you are correct C3D is deficient in that one can NOT specified max grade change to trigger automatic vertical curve and or warning flag.

Thanks for the confirmation, MJF - somehow 'incomplete' just doesn't seem to be sufficient, given the topic.

Methinks this should be as simple as Autodesk adding a new 'PVI Grade In', and 'PVI Grade Out' Expression (or a [this] Tangent Grade, Next/Previous Tangent Grade, etc.)... For notifications, that is... Obviously, auto-Vertical Curves given a violation would be an ideal end-result. :-)

Cheers
Title: Re: Civil 3D | Criteria-Based Design Checks
Post by: mjfarrell on September 16, 2015, 03:19:23 PM
you are correct C3D is deficient in that one can NOT specified max grade change to trigger automatic vertical curve and or warning flag.

Thanks for the confirmation, MJF - somehow 'incomplete' just doesn't seem to be sufficient, given the topic.

Methinks this should be as simple as Autodesk adding a new 'PVI Grade In', and 'PVI Grade Out' Expression (or a [this] Tangent Grade, Next/Previous Tangent Grade, etc.)... For notifications, that is... Obviously, auto-Vertical Curves given a violation would be an ideal end-result. :-)

Cheers

YEAH,

But they can't get so much of C3D 'right' meanwhile trying to ADD all sorts of functionality to INFRA-FREAKING-WORKS  that should already be in and WORKING inside C3D.  I think they are taking care of the wrong side of the development horse on this.