TheSwamp
CAD Forums => CAD General => Topic started by: rugaroo on November 25, 2003, 06:34:56 PM
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I just placed two files under../lillypond/rugaroo/, and if someone would please convert them from 2004 to 2000 I would greatly aprreciate it.
Thx - Rug
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rug,
check your folder in the lilly pond.
Hope they saved ok.
CAB
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Thx a lot CAB...but what are these??? I have never seen these before...
(http://theswamp.org/lilly.pond/rugaroo/curious.jpg)
Also, I will be posting some more dwg's if you don't mind...I will move the old ones off here shortly...
Rug
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rugaroo, that would be proxy objects for the LDD custom objects that you don't have the object enablers for. If you go to the Autodork web site and look for LDD object enablers, you should be able to download them and install them so you can see the objects. You won't be able to modify them, but you will be able to see and plot them.
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K
i didn't know you could do that.
I have drawings that were created with ADT and though I had to live with the
trash on the screen. They were sent to me for reference info for a similar
model of house created by the previous designer for a new customer of mine.
Thanks for the tip.
I have 2004 but still use 2000 until I have time to convert all my menu and
buttons to a portable form so they can go with me. More homework. :(
CAB
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Rug -
if you create the contours with plines you will get better results when converting back.
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I have 2004 but still use 2000 until I have time to convert all my menu and
buttons to a portable form so they can go with me. More homework. :(
CAB
Have a looksy here (http://www.theswamp.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6)
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Yes thanks, I have it already, but this working for a living is interfearing .
I did read the previous version though. :)
I'll get around to it.
CAB
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See that is the wierd thing....All of the plots that I have for this are clean, and I have made sure that the guy I got the topo from is using just the basics before he sends them to me, but after CAB saved them down, wow. Could it have been the ADT??? Aslo I just noticed this error with everything I try to do in that dwg now:
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Substituting [simplex.shx] for [MONOPLEX.shx].
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Substituting [simplex.shx] for [HELV.SHX].
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Rug
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It could be any desktop. They all use ARX files that standard cad can't run.
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Did you get the object enablers form Autodork?
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Yeah I got all of the enablers, but that is what keeps coming up with only that gp dwg that he saved. I am getting more errors with the new enablers.
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Put the dwg back up there Rug and let me try it.
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Ok Mark...give me a few minutes...gotta finish a new parcel map for NY...
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Ok...sorry it took me so long, but I reposted the files that were in lilly.pond. There are two zip files that I placed in there. Let me know what happens.
Rug
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Could it have been the ADT??
You mention that this is ADT, but ADT doesn't have AECCGrade or Contours. It seems that it's LDD or Map objects. If it is ADT, you might find someone who has ADT or wait until I get back from AU to be able to try it for you.
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The only reason I thought it might have been ADT, is because that is what CAB says he is running, so I didn't know if that was causing something to fall apart....you know what I mean?
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No, I am running plain ACAD2004.
CAB
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Alright Rug, the dwgs are on the lilly pond under your folder in one .zip file.
BTW, are these from someone to you?
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Thx Mark...did you notice anything in them that stood out?
Yes they are from one of my new clients, and he is out of town until Dec. 14, so I couldn't have him just do the conversions, and resend.
Rug
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Ok...got them...it seems as though everything came out fine this time....any idea as to why when CAB converted them they had all of those wierd objects? Could he no have the correct enablers or something along those lines?
I just ordered 2004 so I will be cleaning up soon so this doesn't continue too long. Maybe you guys can help me with a few other questions too. ADesk came out with Civil3D this year, along with the Civil/Survey series as usual for LDD. Now what is the true purpose of Civil3D? ADesk says that 3D is not a substitute for Civil/Survey, but a mere 'knock-off'...If true, then would this just be something for the smaller firms to look into that can't afford the true Civil pack? My client wants me to upgrade to 2004, and Civil3D, but I am honestly thinking that for my benifit, I should go for all three packages, Civil3D-Survey-Civil Design. Do you think that I would be wasting my money on all 3, or would it actually prove to be benificial to me and my client?
Rug
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I would think that the LDD pack with the civil/survey would include everything that Civil3D does and then some. My understanding is that the Civil3d is like a LT version of LDD. (I haven't seen the package, but that's what my vendor tells me.) So if uou have 2004 and LDD 4 (or whatever) you should be able to share data without any problem.
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First note this from the Civil3D web site:
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Customers should use Autodesk Civil 3D on non-production projects. The focus of this preview release is to allow you to learn and understand the Autodesk Civil 3D software product, including an understanding of the base concepts and any data interoperability issues between Autodesk® Land Desktop or Autodesk® Civil Design 2004 and this preview version of Autodesk Civil 3D 2004.
IMO, their are basically asking you to be a beta tester for this product. Also I believe this is the next step for LDD,Civil packages. Notice that C3D has "Intelligent Relationships" for all data types in the dwg/project. I see a lot of CAiCE in this product, and I'm not alone. If you haven't done so, D/L the PowerPoint or pdf from the website and take a look at it, it's seems to be very powerful.
www.autodesk.com/civil3D/
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I think Civil3D is to be a blend of Caice and Softdesk, taking the best elements from each and coming up with a "super" package. It is to be the next LDD, just rename it to make it look new and shiney.
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It if is new and improved..... what have we been using? Old and decrepid???
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IS HE CALLING ME NAMES AGAIN ?