Well, since it looks like I am the ONLY person in the world who uses lineweight I will cower back into a corner and stay there....I just don't see it, but hey ... I guess that is why there are two ways to plot. I just NEVER plot by color because quite honestly I make the object colors on my screen colors that are easier to look at and cause less eye strain. The objects are then assigned a lineweight by layer and the default acad.stb, this way the color does not affect the plot. Oh well ....