Author Topic: Question 15 answers go here (Read 5429 times)

Mark · « **on:** August 22, 2005, 08:48:19 PM »

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In AutoCAD, name two ways to rename a layer?

Keith™ · « **Reply #1 on:** August 22, 2005, 09:19:21 PM »

Well, the obvious is to use the layer dialog and the other would be .. I ain't tellin .. let someone else do it .... but I do know

Dinosaur · « **Reply #2 on:** August 22, 2005, 09:34:46 PM »

Quote from: Keith

Well, the obvious is to use the layer dialog and the other would be .. I ain't tellin .. let someone else do it .... but I do know

You mean like the clunky old RENAME command?

TR · « **Reply #3 on:** August 22, 2005, 09:38:58 PM »

Quote from: Dinosaur

Quote from: Keith
Well, the obvious is to use the layer dialog and the other would be .. I ain't tellin .. let someone else do it .... but I do know

You mean like the clunky old RENAME command?

Thats what I was thinking.

Kerry · « **Reply #4 on:** August 22, 2005, 10:20:18 PM »

Possible Alternative at the Command Line :
Command: -rename
Enter object type to rename
[Block/Dimstyle/LAyer/LType/Style/Tablestyle/Ucs/VIew/VPort]: la
Enter old layer name: xx1
Enter new layer name: xx2

Dinosaur · « **Reply #5 on:** August 22, 2005, 11:29:52 PM »

That was the only way to do it through r10 or r11. The fancy dialog boxes didn't show up until r12. There was even a shortened command name for it.
Any guesses what it was for a bonus?

MP · « **Reply #6 on:** August 22, 2005, 11:58:08 PM »

Are you talking the layer command, as in the ddl alias for ddlmodes?

Dinosaur · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:01:37 AM »

No, the alternate command name for "RENAME"

edit

thinking about it, it probably was one of the built in alias's instead of a real command.

MP · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:05:20 AM »

Ok, good thing I didn't post ddlmodes then. You mean ren then?

Dinosaur · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:08:01 AM »

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Ok, good thing I didn't post ddlmodes then. You mean ren then?

Correct, I will donate to you whatever I won in helping guess question 15's answer.

MP · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:11:48 AM »

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Ok, good thing I didn't post ddlmodes then. You mean ren then?

Correct, I will donate to you whatever I won in helping guess question 15's answer.

There's prizes? Adjusting scorecard.

I'll double it back to you: what was the utility that was the basis for the MS DOS's 'doskey' utility that gave one command line aliases (and a stack) at DOS?

/thread hijack.

Dinosaur · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:14:31 AM »

I used mrkeys and qkeys. I don't know their heritage, but someone brought them in very early on. I still have copies hidden away somewhere.

Kerry · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:20:31 AM »

akeys ??

MP · « **Reply #13 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:21:38 AM »

The original that I recall was called ... suitably enough ... ALIAS. IIRC it originated from PC Magazine but I cannot find any decent web reference. Somewhere I have it on a floppy with a TSR ascii chart and some other invaluable tools I used to load into a ram disk; oh those were the days. This would be very late 80's (guess).

Dinosaur · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:26:26 AM »

I would not be surprised if the guy that brought in ours had not written it himself. He had written most of DCA's functions in lisp routines for r10 386 ca 1991.

MP · « **Reply #15 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:28:36 AM »

Found a reference here. About half way down the page there's a couple zip files, early 90's, but I know it was out earlier than that.

Kerry · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:28:39 AM »

Lightning Zoom had some Key re-definition stuff as well IIRC.
That was late 80/s early 90's.

[/nostalgia trip]

MP · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:32:00 AM »

mmm nostalga ... anyone remember GEM?

Dinosaur · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:35:28 AM »

Looks familiar, but I never used it.

We also had a utility that defined f11 and f12 appropriately named f11f12.com

EDIT

I finally remembered how we used these things. They had to be loaded into the acad.bat file for starting autocad. QKey.com redefined the keys and MRKey.com changed them back. You had to careful about how they were loaded and how many lisp routines went in or there would not be enough memory for autocad to load properly. Our first machine had 1mb of single chips mounted on the main board and there was little memory to spare.

MP · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:41:22 AM »

Man those were the days.

Dinosaur · « **Reply #20 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:50:24 AM »

It was a great way to learn the program. All that tweaking to make it do what you needed gave a good foundation for understanding the whole package.

TR · « **Reply #21 on:** August 23, 2005, 08:56:05 AM »

*cough*Old timers*cough*

Dinosaur · « **Reply #22 on:** August 23, 2005, 09:29:53 AM »

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*cough*Old timers*cough*

Hey, it was something to do last night in the rest home while waiting for the aides to change sheets and empty the bed pan.

Keith™ · « **Reply #23 on:** August 23, 2005, 10:54:52 AM »

Dang .. take a few minutes break and all heck breaks loose ... renaming layers has come full circle from RENAME and the layer dialog to Doskey to qkeys and back again ...
Incidently way back when (mid 80's), I used to use ansi.sys programming to create shortcut keys and expand upon the usefulness of the keyboard ....

I'll have to see if I can find some of those old ansi batch programs that essentially painted a pretty menu on the screen and enabled a cool user interface.

MP · « **Reply #24 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:01:14 AM »

I recall using ansi.sys to build pretty menu systems too. At the time it was pretty techie stuff, though so was interrupt based programming which I did a lot of. My two fav books at the time were "The Undocumented PC" and "PC Interrupts" by Frank Gilluwe and Ralf Brown fame. Those guys were brilliant.

LE · « **Reply #25 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:07:38 AM »

I know is not related my reply here, but anyone here remember how to extend or trim lines without the trim or extend command?

TR · « **Reply #26 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:09:56 AM »

Grip edit

Dinosaur · « **Reply #27 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:21:15 AM »

I had forgotten that ansi.sys had to be loaded before those commands would work.

Before grips came along in r12, I just used multiple fillet commands to trim and extend - a bad habit I still find myself using at times.

LE · « **Reply #28 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:24:42 AM »

nope... this was done with a command and by selection...

Bob Wahr · « **Reply #29 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:36:03 AM »

Are you talking about filet with a 0 radius?

Dinosaur · « **Reply #30 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:39:13 AM »

Quote from: Bob Wahr

Are you talking about filet with a 0 radius?

Yes, that was the way I did it . . . sloppy but it worked.

LE · « **Reply #31 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:40:35 AM »

Quote from: Bob Wahr

Are you talking about filet with a 0 radius?

No fillet.... it was [back to 85 - 87] and still works that command now... it works just for lines and with orthomode on only.

Dinosaur · « **Reply #32 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:45:14 AM »

You can do that with the change command

LE · « **Reply #33 on:** August 23, 2005, 11:47:14 AM »

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You can do that with the change command

Yes.... after I mention the hints.... anyway did not want to mess on this thread....

Later.

PDJ · « **Reply #34 on:** August 23, 2005, 12:17:26 PM »

Umm, fillet 0 works with more than lines and ortho mode doesn't matter.. I've been using it for at least 15 years..

Tom · « **Reply #35 on:** August 23, 2005, 05:46:25 PM »

"I know is not related my reply here, but anyone here remember how to extend or trim lines without the trim or extend command?"

Lengthen

Bob Wahr · « **Reply #36 on:** August 23, 2005, 05:55:03 PM »

lengthen will extend but not trim, you have to give it a positive non-zero value. I had forgotten that command though.

Kerry · « **Reply #37 on:** August 23, 2005, 06:06:03 PM »

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lengthen will extend but not trim, ..... .

Lengthen ->Delta will accept Negative Values
Lengthen -> DYnamic will shorten .. and accepts Direct Distance Entry.

Tom · « **Reply #38 on:** August 23, 2005, 06:08:02 PM »

Sorry but your wrong you can give it a negative number eg -100(or you can in 2004) and it will shorten the line or arc thus trimming it

Bob Wahr · « **Reply #39 on:** August 23, 2005, 06:16:30 PM »

My bad, when I tried it, I gave it a negative for the total length. Gee, I wonder why that didn't work.

LE · « **Reply #40 on:** August 23, 2005, 06:20:08 PM »

hmmm..... was Lengthen part of R9

.. I do not remember that command....

Kerry · « **Reply #41 on:** August 23, 2005, 06:23:23 PM »

Quote from: LE

hmmm..... was Lengthen part of R9 .. I do not remember that command....

First in R13 I think Luis .

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