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chance

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Fatal Error
« on: September 07, 2006, 10:59:49 AM »
getting ever so famous Fatal Error: Unhandled Access.....are there back door methods to fixing these files......... :pissed:
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pmvliet

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2006, 11:21:31 AM »
What is the scenario?
1) A fresh install
2) A new Drawing
3) An old Drawing
4) Another companies files?
5) Does AutoCad start up?

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chance

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2006, 01:56:42 PM »
an old drawing....some where along the line it has been corrupted
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daron

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2006, 02:06:05 PM »
If you can open it; audit, purge, audit, purge. Do other house cleaning on the drawing.
If you can't open it; try recover.
If it opens after a recover, attempt item 1.
If a recover fails; open a new drawing and insert it into the new drawing.
You might also try the last item after any of the other items are complete, just to leave out any of the garbage that gets left behind, like defpoints and such. Only, don't insert, but copybase using a selection, not "ALL" and pasting it into the new drawing.

P.S. If none of the above works, you may have a useless drawing.
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Arizona

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2006, 02:24:59 PM »
Also try inserting it into an empty drawing.
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pmvliet

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2006, 02:38:43 PM »
if it starts to open but then crashes.
Try and hit the "esc" key once it opens. This will stop more things to load.
It could be a bad reference file or something like that.
It's not necessarily the drawing but rather something attached.

You can sometimes cancel things and get it to open.
If you are sucessful at this, try what daron posted.

Pieter
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Yoland

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2006, 05:26:54 AM »
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2006, 05:38:49 AM »
.. then you catch a chicken, and find a redheaded Nubian princess and then ...
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2006, 08:50:45 AM »
heh heh, he said chicken.
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2006, 10:30:24 AM »
So this morning I open this drawing I've been working with the past couple of days and start doing a little work. I click the button to open the Layer Control dialog and get myself a nice fat fatal error.

I open MAP again and open the drawing. Previously, I had entities selected when I clicked the layer button so, this time, I click the button only.

Fatal error.

Okay, I open MAP again and run a recover on the drawing... no errors found.

I audit the drawing... no errors found.

I purge the drawing completely and save.

I close the drawing, open it up again, and do nothing but click the layer button.

Fatal Error.

That Map 3D 2006 stuff is great.

Pardon my while I reboot.  :x
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SDETERS

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 12:51:24 PM »
What happens if you try to DXF out the drawing and then import that dxf

You should get some of the drawing back

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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2006, 12:53:36 PM »
Well I rebooted, opened Map, didn't open a drawing at all... clicked on the Layer button...
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2006, 01:04:48 PM »
Don't know anything about Map, but one thing I have too remind myself is to audit all the attachments.

Any Xrefs/images?

(Haven't crashed in awhile, but I'm still the "West Coast Crash King Heavyweight"  self proclaimed)
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2006, 01:25:50 PM »
Quote from: nivuahc on September 08, 2006, 12:53:36 PM
Well I rebooted, opened Map, didn't open a drawing at all... clicked on the Layer button...

:)

This was with Map, fresh from the start, right after reboot, with no drawing opened at all.

I put in a request with IT already "can I please be trusted with the installation CD's so that I may attempt to reinstall Map?"  :roll:

Man, that whole thing was a lot easier when I was the ITwit.  :wink:
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2006, 01:27:46 PM »
Which version of MAP?
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2006, 01:30:27 PM »
Quote from: nivuahc on September 08, 2006, 01:25:50 PM
"can I please be trusted with the installation CD's so that I may attempt to reinstall Map?"  :roll:

Want us to put in a good word for ya?  :angel:

Be careful when closing  the CD Rom door since its nekkid Friday  :-o
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2006, 01:32:01 PM »
Map 3D 2006

I need to update my custom text... I don't have Map 5 anymores
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2006, 01:34:48 PM »
There was an 05 service pack that fixed up some layer dialog problems, but we never installed 2006.  There were 2 service packs I think, are they installed?
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2006, 01:38:57 PM »
first thing I did when I got the new maching, mang. That was Tuesday.
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2006, 01:42:45 PM »
Pack it with cheese over the weekend and try again on monday.
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2006, 01:43:00 PM »
Did the layer dialog ever work then?  Perhaps a repair . . . that is pretty painless with 06 products.
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2006, 01:58:11 PM »
Yep, the layer dialog worked fine yesterday. As soon as I get the CD's from IT I plan on doing a repair.
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2006, 02:50:57 PM »
Drat!  :x

I thought I found a solution here.

Nope. I got .NET 2.0 installed first thing Tuesday morning.  :roll:


BTW: Got that info from here.


Is there a way to disable all the Map *stuff* and run just plain vanila AutoCAD?
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2006, 02:54:30 PM »
I hink you can edit the shortcut to run vanilla by removing everything after "adac.exe" in the target box
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2006, 02:58:36 PM »
Nope:

Code: [Select]
"C:\Program Files\Autodesk Map 3D 2006\acad.exe"
The only thing different in mine is I have /nologo after the command...

Hey! Maybe there's a /nobloat switch too!
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #25 on: September 08, 2006, 03:02:24 PM »
I don't have stand alone MAP here, does your target point to an arg file or the exe file?
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2006, 03:05:21 PM »
The .exe file
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2006, 03:06:25 PM »
Sorry, bad eye alergies today and I didn't see all of it.  Do you have an arg file somewhere that is loading with MAP?
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2006, 03:08:00 PM »
not to my knowledge, sir.
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #29 on: September 08, 2006, 03:09:41 PM »
If not, the only way I can think of is to unload all of the MAP menus in the cui  :-P :-P :-P :-P
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2006, 03:11:54 PM »
It may not be too painful . . . save your current workspace first, make a copy of it and slash away at the copy and then save it.
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2006, 03:16:40 PM »
We'll see. I just opened Map and typed CUI... wanna take a stab at what I got for that effort?

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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2006, 03:19:23 PM »
One big ol' headache if that's the first time youve been there. :-D
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2006, 03:20:16 PM »
No, it's not the first time I've been there... this is what I got:
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2006, 03:22:56 PM »
Well, you have now established for CERTAIN it is time for a repair.  Has the ITwit arrrived with the disk's yet?
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2006, 03:28:56 PM »
nope
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2006, 03:39:42 PM »
Is MAPSKINMAP turned on?  Check out THIS.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2006, 03:52:09 PM by DinØsaur »
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chance

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2006, 04:50:29 PM »
well I am working in ADT 3.3.....if you laugh....I live close to New Hope Pa...and I will get some witches to put hexes on you ...but thats for another time......

so I get this message during Recovery....

INTERNAL ERROR: !U:\global\src\ObjectDbx\DB\IMP\src\dblayoti.cpp@97: ePermanentlyErased

I am thinking that it is referenced file that is missing...any takers.....

dude in England.....surfboards in the Artics....coooll
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Yoland

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2006, 04:55:48 PM »
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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2006, 06:03:18 PM »
From adesk:  There is no way to not load map and get plain acad.  I wrote a unload function and put in s::startup
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2006, 08:33:44 PM »
Quote from: CmdrDuh on September 08, 2006, 06:03:18 PM
From adesk:  There is no way to not load map and get plain acad.  I wrote a unload function and put in s::startup

And you're going to share the method with everyone, right? :)
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2006, 08:34:39 PM »
Quote from: DinØsaur on September 08, 2006, 03:39:42 PM
Is MAPSKINMAP turned on?  Check out THIS.

Thanks Dino! That looks like it may solve the problem. I'll try it out first thing on Monday! :)
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Dinosaur

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2006, 08:39:33 PM »
I had forgoten all about this mess.  Mapskinmap was a VERY bad idea that someone came up with for 2006 . . . they didn't even try to fix it in 2007 and just disabled it.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2006, 08:40:35 PM by DinØsaur »
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nivuahc

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Re: Fatal Error
« Reply #43 on: September 11, 2006, 11:16:15 AM »
Well that worked perfectly! Thanks DinØ!

Right now I've almost got this thing running like vanilla AutoCAD.  :kewl:
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