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CAD Forums => CAD General => CAD Standards => Topic started by: Krushert on April 06, 2010, 02:07:32 PM
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Is the following statement doubling up in calling it an angle?
CONT. L4x4x.25 STEEL ANGLE
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Is the following statement doubling up in calling it an angle?
CONT. L4x4x.25 STEEL ANGLE
Is an ATM Machine an Automatic Teller Machine Machine? :wink:
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Not only is the word Angle redundant, I think that the word steel is in this case. IMO, it's safe to assume steel unless called out otherwise.
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Is the following statement doubling up in calling it an angle?
CONT. L4x4x.25 STEEL ANGLE
Is an ATM Machine an Automatic Teller Machine Machine? :wink:
Sure, just like your car has ABS brakes. :-)
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Similar to, but not the same as Tuna Fish.
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Not only is the word Angle redundant, I think that the word steel is in this case. IMO, it's safe to assume steel unless called out otherwise.
With this crazy project, we have Steel, Stainless, Galvanized, painted steel, Steel with special trademarked coatings. So calling out steel in this example is correct; in our crazy thinking anyway. :|
If it gets any crazier with materials, I going to say I am back in the shipyard. :cry:
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L4x4x.25 STEEL
Would be correct in my office.
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AISC Sez: L4x4x1/4
Tradition says materials should (shall) be identified in the specs, but if you are crazy with lots of materials and it clarifies the contract, go for material callouts on the drawings. As long as someone will sign and agree to your contract, you're good to go.
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L4x4x.25 STEEL
Would be correct in my office.
Steel callouts here are by type...
SS=Stainless Steel
ASTM=mild Steel etc...
So what we have is.....
L4x4x1/4 SS-304L = stainless steel Angle
W10X39 ASTM-A36 = mild steel W-Beam
C10x20 ASTM-A36 = Mild steel Channel
The "L" identifies the structural designation, just like "W" stands for Wide beam or "C" means Channel...no need to repeat that.
Call out standard material types at the end of the structural identifier.....simple!
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do not know if has something to do this here...
normally in the architectural drawings you add an abbreviation or the whole word in the stairs of "UP" or "DN" and also draw an arrow pointing the run direction.
there was a PA in one of the projects jobs I worked and she put a note into the stairs:
STAIR TO GO DOWN
STAIR TO GO UP
those were notes into a 30 stories hotel building :roll: yeah!
that was the fun part of architorture....
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Or the stair callout: an arrow with the word "heaven"
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Or the stair callout: an arrow with the word "heaven"
He he...
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do not know if has something to do this here...
normally in the architectural drawings you add an abbreviation or the whole word in the stairs of "UP" or "DN" and also draw an arrow pointing the run direction.
there was a PA in one of the projects jobs I worked and she put a note into the stairs:
STAIR TO GO DOWN
STAIR TO GO UP
those were notes into a 30 stories hotel building :roll: yeah!
that was the fun part of architorture....
Long story but we had a PITA of job super on a projects that was an almost rubber stamp from job to job. This was the architects attempt to stop the phone calls. He failed becuase he forgot spec material. The job super called with will that be brass, stainless ... ... ... :-D
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wow :-o :lmao:
Long story but we had a PITA of job super on a projects that was an almost rubber stamp from job to job. This was the architects attempt to stop the phone calls. He failed becuase he forgot spec material. The job super called with will that be brass, stainless ... ... ... :-D
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L4x4x.25 STEEL
Would be correct in my office.
Steel callouts here are by type...
SS=Stainless Steel
ASTM=mild Steel etc...
So what we have is.....
L4x4x1/4 SS-304L = stainless steel Angle
W10X39 ASTM-A36 = mild steel W-Beam
C10x20 ASTM-A36 = Mild steel Channel
The "L" identifies the structural designation, just like "W" stands for Wide beam or "C" means Channel...no need to repeat that.
Call out standard material types at the end of the structural identifier.....simple!
Ah yes, it's been a while since working with true structural drawings, (Patrick Engineering, Inc.). Here, the only people that see my construction drawings have no clue as to ANSI, ASTM, ISO, or any other standard drawing notation practices. So, I cater to their ignorance. It kind of scares me to think that if I ever have to go to work for someone that knows what they are doing again, I'll be lost.
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L4x4x.25 STEEL
Would be correct in my office.
Steel callouts here are by type...
SS=Stainless Steel
ASTM=mild Steel etc...
So what we have is.....
L4x4x1/4 SS-304L = stainless steel Angle
W10X39 ASTM-A36 = mild steel W-Beam
C10x20 ASTM-A36 = Mild steel Channel
The "L" identifies the structural designation, just like "W" stands for Wide beam or "C" means Channel...no need to repeat that.
Call out standard material types at the end of the structural identifier.....simple!
Ah yes, it's been a while since working with true structural drawings, (Patrick Engineering, Inc.). Here, the only people that see my construction drawings have no clue as to ANSI, ASTM, ISO, or any other standard drawing notation practices. So, I cater to their ignorance. It kind of scares me to think that if I ever have to go to work for someone that knows what they are doing again, I'll be lost.
Have no fear....just come work here! It's kinda half-assed with notation....we *don't* use welding symbols...but it's a pretty good gig. How's your 3D?
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S'all I do. From concept to construction drawings, it's all pulled from my 3D models. Would be a "Bear" of a commute tho...
:wink:
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S'all I do. From concept to construction drawings, it's all pulled from my 3D models. Would be a "Bear" of a commute tho...
:wink:
LOL....know what you mean. I'm pulling 100 miles a day as is...can't imagine your drive!
Sure could use a decent 3D drafter with some mech background here...otherwise I'll NEVER get out-a here!
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S'all I do. From concept to construction drawings, it's all pulled from my 3D models. Would be a "Bear" of a commute tho...
:wink:
LOL....know what you mean. I'm pulling 100 miles a day as is...can't imagine your drive!
Sure could use a decent 3D drafter with some mech background here...otherwise I'll NEVER get out-a here!
my 3d is awesome...and I'm virtually everywhere ;)
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S'all I do. From concept to construction drawings, it's all pulled from my 3D models. Would be a "Bear" of a commute tho...
:wink:
LOL....know what you mean. I'm pulling 100 miles a day as is...can't imagine your drive!
Sure could use a decent 3D drafter with some mech background here...otherwise I'll NEVER get out-a here!
I'll take you up on that when I decide to relocate. (It may really happen).
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I guess 12,700 miles each way would be a bit much. :)
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Should be annotated as: "CONT. L4x4x1/4"