I take the entire project, the only difference in the setups is that I have Access 2003 on my laptop, and I have civil series 2004, at work we have LDD and Civil Design with Office 2002. I haven't taken this project out of office, so I may have been misleading with my previous info. I know that pipeworks database is access 97, I am wondering whether there was something in access 2002 that doesn't agree with pipeworks...