Topic: Scale

[Luke]

I'm sure Architectural desktop has a lot of this info already or will help me figure it out but I do not have and will not be getting architectural desktop.  AutoCAD 2008 Vanilla Full Version. I'm creating a drawing template.  Making it up as I go.  Anyway can anybody tell me if I should make any changes to the graduations of these scales?  The ones I question are 1-1/2"  3/4"  3/8"  3/16"  3/32" but am open to any feedback.



Thanks,
Matt

[Guest]

They're probably just blocks with attributes or fields so, yeah, you can modify them any way you like.

[Bryco]

1/2" is handy

[Luke]

I created them I know I can modify them any way I would like.  The question is for example on the 3/8" = 1' scale should I be showing my graduations as I have 1' 2' 3' 4' & 8'.  Or should they be graduated different.  I'm interested in feedback on every scale not just 3/8" but was using 3/8" as example.

Thanks,
Matt

[Luke]

if you mean 1/2" = 1' it is there... top right

[Keith™]

I guess it really depends upon the size of your finished structure ... most of the scales I have seen printed on paper are in 10' increments of 1/4" = 1' ... thus the scale would be 2 1/2" long ... I suspect anything smaller will be too small to accurately measure.

[Luke]

So all my annotation will be placed in model space.  I will scale my viewports accordingly.  What I did is create the 12" = 1' scale and annotation block at 1:1.  The I scaled it 2x for the 6" = 1', skip a few 16x for the 3/4"=1' skip a few more... 48x for the 1/4" = 1'.  So in model space every one of these displays at a different size.  But when I scale my viewport to work with the "size of my structure" I will drop this annotation under the view so it shows up in the viewport.  So what you see here is each one scaled accordingly through viewports.  What I am trying to do is give more reference of scale rather than just a statement so that when I PDF this thing on 24x36 page and the installers print it on 11x17 they have a graduation to figure out the scale because the statement of (for example) 1/4"=1' will no longer be correct but the graduation will be true to the view.  Make sens?  So what I am asking is are my graduations correct or do I need to adjust some of them?

[Guest]

I made things simple; one Dynamic Block with multiple scale factors to be placed in Paper Space (no need to create viewports, pan, zoom, scale, etc...). Just drop it and move on!

[Josh Nieman]

I made things simple; one Dynamic Block with multiple scale factors to be placed in Paper Space (no need to create viewports, pan, zoom, scale, etc...). Just drop it and move on!

Ditto.

[Josh Nieman]

I made things simple; one Dynamic Block with multiple scale factors to be placed in Paper Space (no need to create viewports, pan, zoom, scale, etc...). Just drop it and move on!

Ditto.

Of course we then ditched using it, wherever it is (I moved it to keep people from using it) because the boss said he doesn't wanna give anyone more of an excuse to scale drawings, he'd rather have them bug us for dimensions.

[Luke]

OK That is fair enough and I plan to do that eventually.  But I can not create that dynamic block until I know what each scale should look like... right?  So I need to determine if my scale graduations are correct right now...

[Guest]

OK That is fair enough and I plan to do that eventually.  But I can not create that dynamic block until I know what each scale should look like... right?  So I need to determine if my scale graduations are correct right now...

When you drop a scale on, say 3/4"=1', does 3/4" equal one foot?  If so, I'd say the graduations are correct.  I'm sure there's some stupid standard for this (maybe Nat'l CADD Standards or Arch. Graphic Stds) but no one says you have to use that.  If you like the look of it, and it scales correctly, then I'd say you're done.

[Luke]

OK so now your on the right track.  Yes it scales properly.  Why would I wast the time creating all this if they did not scale correctly.

You hit on it there at the end... CADD Standard or Arch. Graphic Standard...  Anybody got that info to confirm that I have drawn each of these at the correct increments.

[Guest]

I can't confirm but a good place to start might be to actually look at a scale; see how it's broken down.

http://media.wiley.com/product_data/excerpt/66/04712090/0471209066.pdf

[CAB]

These are the typical scales I use. Yours look fine though.

[Bob Garner]

I'm not sure if I understand your question but I think the graduations for the scales: 4" =1' and 2"=1' are not made up of whole number graduations.  Does that make sense?

In order to make something perfectly clear, I usually confuse the issue.

Bob

[Luke]

Yes it makes sense... sort of.  What are the graduations then?

[CADaver]

Guys, he's looking for the "groups" of graduations shown on the scale; the "1', 2'6", 5' and 10' or 1', 2', 4', 8' graduations.  The old standard I used to use a couple decades ago was base 2 for Arch. scales (smallest block was 1/8" actual) and base 10 for engineering scales (1/5 inch actual) the graphs were always kept near 2" long.

For 1/4"=1'-0"  You have a mark @ 0, 1'-0", 2'-0", 4'-0" and 8'-0"
for 1" = 10'      You have a mark @ 0, 1', 5', 10' and 20'

But that was a long long time ago.

[Bob Garner]

Yeah, Randy, that's what I was tryin' to say.

Bo