Sorry took me so long to get back to you all...caddaver (pretty original name) came up with a helpful solution, i believe (havent got to try it yet wanted to write back first)my routine prompts the user to pick two (points) on existing lines (that dont necessarily have to be tanget with each other...but are perpendicular) fillets the two lines together with a radius of "0" and i was trying to get that intersecting point with the two previous points picked, without having to write alot of extra code (that im not that good @ yet!)just basically trying to run lean and mean....no what i mean?