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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2006, 09:08:51 PM »
The 3d looks great but I can't imagine that many people do enough 3d to want to pay all that extra.
Now that ET is native we'll finally be rid  "RAK" as a registered application ( maybe, perhaps)

Yes. it looks great,
but,  what extra  do you mean Bryco.. 3D is standard. I think there are quite a few peeps who use ACAD 3D and Solids. Perhaps there will be more soon :-)

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2006, 12:55:00 AM »
Kerry you are right (good poll). I really haven't got a clue about the real world of drafting, we get architectural dwgs for the facility as dwgs but the structurals I've always seen only on paper. Only recently have I seen 3d creep into the arch dwgs and for me it's been a hassle making a 2d xref.
 Do you supply a 2d plan to your client?
 I haven't used the "Replace Z value" option, but perhaps that makes 3d xref plans fine.
 I'm wondering if structural is a little more suited to the existing 3d cad as you can use existing libraries rather than doing one off prototypes.

Anyway, quite the eye opener for me.

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2006, 01:29:12 AM »
Bryco, this is probably best in another thread , perhaps one of the Admin will move our posts to the 3D Poll thread ..


Not all our work is Buildings ..Have a look here  http://www.theswamp.org/forum/index.php?topic=5794.0

Building plans are generally issued 2d. .. or as requested. We have purpose written software to make our lives a little easier.

I learnt drafting on the board .. and learnt to visualise 3d relationships there. Spacial relationships are a dream in a CAD package after the board.

 

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2006, 03:46:56 AM »
http://management.cadalyst.com/cadman/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=310293

According to this article the DWG format has changed again, back to the days of saving as previous versions again.

This really Pisses me off, I'm sure they only do this to force people to upgrade. :pissed: :pissed:
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2006, 04:25:28 AM »
http://management.cadalyst.com/cadman/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=310293

According to this article the DWG format has changed again, back to the days of saving as previous versions again.

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Andy,

Just in case you don't know, a change of binary format is required. With the new objects available, previous versions would cack themselves because they wouldn't know what to do.

AutoDesks published guideline is to change binary format each 3 years.

The update required to ARX files is to ensure compatability ie;  the ARX files should be built with the same Libraries as the Acad core.
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #35 on: March 02, 2006, 04:43:48 AM »
I din't know that.

So what happens when you save as 2000? does it just fall apart?
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #36 on: March 02, 2006, 05:51:27 AM »
No, Save_As is fine, back to R14 if I recall.  Trying to open a 2007 dwg in prior is another thing though :-)
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #37 on: March 02, 2006, 11:58:53 AM »
From Lynn Allen's blog.

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Express Tools that would finally grow up and become part of the core program!

Sorry but I just can't get excited about this. I can't see how you call that an upgrade. I know a lot of people use them but with a little work on your part and theswamp as a whole you can learn to write your very own express tools ... ones that do exactly what you want.

Yes, it's an upgrade! Especially for those of us stuck with LT, where, even if we were great programmers, we couldn't get all the functionality of the Express Tools. Maybe now I won't have to hear "Wait -- how'd you do that?" quite so often... :-)

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #38 on: March 02, 2006, 02:51:21 PM »
AutoCad 2007 new API changes

Scroll past the .arx stuff...

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #39 on: March 02, 2006, 03:25:48 PM »
mark doesn't that bit about tables apply to 2006 not 2007? all of this is possible already?

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #40 on: March 02, 2006, 03:29:49 PM »
AutoCad 2007 new API changes

Scroll past the .arx stuff...

You mean this Will ?
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AutoLISP interoperability from .NET (now you can call LISP function and send/receive parameters from .NET).

I'll be interested to see the final ObjectARX Managed SDK and Help Files. :)
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #41 on: March 02, 2006, 05:31:36 PM »
I got quoted $2950 for one seat. It drops down to $2800 if you get 5+ seats.

To upgrade from 2005? YEOW that can't be right and terrible if it is!!!

Autodesk wants everyone on subscription, and they set they're prices accordingly.

Starting with 2005 or 2006, they no longer offer upgrade prices.  If you don't buy a subscription and maintain it, you get stuck for a full seat when you want the new version.

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2006, 03:41:54 AM »
http://dwf.blogs.com/beyond_the_paper/2006/03/autocad_2007_dw.html

DWF attach, I wonder if this means that DWFs would be useable as Xrefs?
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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2006, 04:55:00 AM »
Can do pdf's.

Nice, will hopefully work, without all the hasle of pdf drivers.  :realmad:

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Re: What's new in 2007.
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2006, 07:49:39 AM »
I got quoted $2950 for one seat. It drops down to $2800 if you get 5+ seats.

To upgrade from 2005? YEOW that can't be right and terrible if it is!!!

Autodesk wants everyone on subscription, and they set they're prices accordingly.

Starting with 2005 or 2006, they no longer offer upgrade prices.  If you don't buy a subscription and maintain it, you get stuck for a full seat when you want the new version.

Yes, they're going to make you an offer you can't refuse...  :pissed:

At one time innovation is what drove Autodesk... now corporate greed sits firmly at the wheel and doesn't look to be giving up it's seat any time in the near future.

They have learned well from the Micro$oft overlords.

Here's a new slogan for them:

At Autodesk, the customer is always right
under our thumb, where they can be controlled like the peasants that they are.