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Martin-Y

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« on: February 10, 2004, 10:08:02 AM »
I dared to have a moan on Autodesk discussion forum about being unable to read 2004 with my lowly 2002. I was promptly lambasted probably by Autodesk employees for lack of support to our "favourite" software by not upgrading every time they do. What version are you guys on out of interest?
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daron

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2004, 10:12:03 AM »
Mostly 2002. Some on 2004. I'm sorry to hear that Autodesk thinks they put out such a great product with each release that they must make you feel less important for not jumping on the latest and greatest band-wagon. 2004 is a great product, but it is flawed in many ways. You'll have better discussions here anyway.
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Hangman

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2004, 12:45:31 PM »
Well, that's a loaded question.   :D

My office officially uses 2k4 ADT, ...
However, we are currently on the board when it comes to drafting, currently at v14 when it comes to toolbar commands and such and constantly saving files to 2000 because everybody we share with is using 2000 or 2002.

I've tried reasoning with them (my office coworkers), tried forcing them, tried coercing them and I've even tried bribing them.
They say, "If you can't beat em, Join em".   That's the only thing I haven't done yet, ...  BEAT them.   :D
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M-dub

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2004, 12:57:11 PM »
I use 2002...
Autodesk is living in a dream world and they're trying to force everyone who uses their products to join them.  They only wear Autodesk's shoes.  In other words, they either don't know what it's like to be on a limited budget or they don't care to remember.  Collectively, we are who made Autodesk who they are now...
As Rodney Dangerfield would say..."I get no respect!"
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daron

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2004, 01:17:38 PM »
HM, what do the vendor's that get ADT objects think about the 2D un-editable proxy's you send when you save back to 2000?
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Mark

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2004, 01:22:37 PM »
Taking Adesk's side for a momment........ after all they are a company, and they HAVE to make money. The only way to do that is to sell NEW software.

>Collectively, we are who made Autodesk who they are now...
agreed, wish i owned stock :D
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t-bear

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2004, 01:59:24 PM »
Mark said:
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Taking Adesk's side for a momment........ after all they are a company, and they HAVE to make money.


True, but it's not "good business practice" to alienate your customers.  I'm not privy to the conversation Martin had with A-desk, of course, but it SOUNDS like you are either using the "latest & greatest" or you aren't worth dealing with.  I quit going to A-desk years ago so I can't regale you with stories, good OR bad.  IMHO there's more info on the forums and, for the most part, you are treated with respect whether you are on 2K4 or R9........
We're on 2000i BTW........will pro'lly stay here 'til just b'for they drop "support".
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Hangman

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2004, 02:00:32 PM »
Daron,

I'm sure they cuss and call us a bunch-a-losers.  I know the Engineers we work with do.   It drives me nuts when I have to explode a block because these boneheads "... don't like overlapping lines".   I've tried the analogy of, "Does a framer scrape the face off of a 2x4 just so he doesn't have 'overlapping faces'"?
My problem is, they complain to the boss that they have to work with my drawings.  Then the Boss comes to me with the " we have several drafters here and your the only one causing a problem, get back to the office standards".   Like we have any.   :evil:

Sorry, I'm on a soapbox ...  on to bigger and better things.
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daron

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2004, 02:33:56 PM »
Sounds like you're in the same situation as I. You're the only one using 2004 and everybody else in your office is in 2002 or previous? My solution is to not deal with any drawings that actually contain AEC objects.
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Hangman

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2004, 06:04:05 PM »
I kinda wish I was the only one PERIOD.   It'd be so much easier, my drawings, my way, no complaints, no problems.   (yeah ...)   :lol:
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2004, 06:23:17 PM »
I love my job ... :lol:
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daron

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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2004, 06:25:27 PM »
I'm getting there.
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CADaver

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2004, 06:34:53 PM »
Quote from: t-bear

 I'm not privy to the conversation Martin had with A-desk, of course, but it SOUNDS like you are either using the "latest & greatest" or you aren't worth dealing with.  


Yo Bear,
  His conversation was not with ADESK, but with me (and a couple others) and it wasn't about ADESK support, it was about the whine that you couldn't open R2004 files with R2002.
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daron

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2004, 06:37:12 PM »
It's called service pack 1 or 2 and deal with proxy's the best you can. Care 2 share a link to this discussion, Cadaver?
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CADaver

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2004, 06:58:24 PM »
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It's called service pack 1 or 2 and deal with proxy's the best you can. Care 2 share a link to this discussion, Cadaver?


Sure,

http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?threadID=312860
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