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hudster

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Mtext wrap or hard return?
« on: December 07, 2005, 12:34:46 PM »
Which do you prefer to use Word wraps or Hard returns?
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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2005, 12:39:26 PM »
I prefer word wrap, but sometimes in 2002 we need to do a numbered list, and the quickest way we have found of doing that is to put in hard returns (I bet someone here has a better way to do that)
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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2005, 01:37:17 PM »
I know I don't use AutoCAD but I would thing with text wrap you might have it wrapped where you don't want it to.

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2005, 02:23:44 PM »
I always hard return. Alot of times AutoCADs text editor doesn't show text as WYSIWYG, and using any external editor just aint as fast. So, I hard return on new lines. Haven't encountered any problems.

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2005, 02:26:40 PM »
Do I get points subtracted if I answer 'It depends on the nature of the text body' ?
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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2005, 02:37:29 PM »
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Do I get points subtracted if I answer 'It depends on the nature of the text body' ?

Can I retract my last post? Of course I can. But I should've said that ^

hyposmurf

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2005, 02:50:04 PM »
I prefer it hard most the time.

Sdoman

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2005, 03:25:35 PM »
Hard returns for
leader notes to
precisely control
text breaks

Word wrap for long winded drawing notes. Having said that, 98% of our mtext is leader text.

whdjr

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2005, 04:16:50 PM »
I'm with Kerry on this one.  It depends on the situation.

Mtext by its design is a multi-line paragragh style.  Most paragraphs don't have hard returns however there are times when you want things to be associated together yet other things seperated within the same piece of text.

Kate M

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2005, 02:40:20 PM »
Hard returns for
leader notes to
precisely control
text breaks

Word wrap for long winded drawing notes. Having said that, 98% of our mtext is leader text.

What he said. :-) Also word wrap for numbered lists (except where you need a new number).

nivuahc

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2005, 02:47:21 PM »
I prefer word wrap, but sometimes in 2002 we need to do a numbered list, and the quickest way we have found of doing that is to put in hard returns (I bet someone here has a better way to do that)

Numbered lists are automagic in 2006

Word Wrap!

Word Wrap! :realmad:


Okay, not for leaders... but for EVERYTHING ELSE!  :realmad:

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2005, 02:50:35 PM »
I prefer it hard most the time.

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whdjr

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2005, 02:52:00 PM »
Could we have a third option that states "Both"?

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2005, 03:08:16 PM »
Could we have a third option that states "Both"?

And a forth that states

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2005, 03:36:04 PM »

And a forth that states

I don't like AutoCAD

Sounds like somebodies got a case of the Mon...err...Thursdays

hudster

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2005, 03:46:18 AM »
I had a difference of opinion about this with another draffie.

Whats the points of Mtext having a word processor type interface if you use hard returns for notes?
It defeats the purpose.

He uses them in leaders as well, I personally never use a hard return and instead use the width to control the leader text.
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M-dub

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2005, 11:50:23 AM »
The only time we use Mtext is well, when there are multiple lines of text such as notes. :)
 One of my pet peeves is when I find strings like 3-FI-1234 as Mtext.

pmvliet

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2005, 12:46:30 PM »
I use hard returns in this instance for note sheets:

1. This is a test to see what happens
    When you want to go onto a second line with hard returns.

2. With word wrap, your second line will
start right under the 2. and I don't like that look.

To avoid that, you have to have your number as one entitiy
and then your information as another...

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2005, 12:52:12 PM »
I used to agree with you, Pieter, but I'm an Mtext convert.  :)

Using a hard return isn't too bad for original creation, but for the next guy (or YOU) who has to modify the note, it can be a real pain in the butt!

pmvliet

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2005, 12:53:56 PM »
M-dub, that is mtext, do you think I'm using dtext?

M-dub

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2005, 12:59:46 PM »
Oh, sorry, yes I did.

My mistake...carry on!  :)

pmvliet

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2005, 01:07:53 PM »
The only occasion where I use text is like where you stated "short strings of text" such as X-001
If my chance I need to add a second line, I have "TT" set to convert to mtext.

Dinosaur

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2005, 01:11:49 PM »
Be sure to look for the changes in MText with your next upgrade.  Tabs and numbered list functions have already been added.  Because of these issues, I almost overlooked them in favor of my old alternative methodology.

pmvliet

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2005, 02:30:12 PM »
that is a good point to mention. I'll keep that in mind, but much of what I do/have done gets tossed around, translated and everything else imaginable. So I tend to keep things as simple as possible so that when it does get translated or something like that, the files are much cleaner.

I've just been the person who has had to deal with files that are really messed up.

Pieter

Kate M

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2005, 04:39:14 PM »
I use hard returns in this instance for note sheets:

1. This is a test to see what happens
    When you want to go onto a second line with hard returns.

2. With word wrap, your second line will
start right under the 2. and I don't like that look.

In 2004, you can set a paragraph indent that eliminates the need for hard returns in numbered lists.

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Re: Mtext wrap or hard return?
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2005, 05:34:23 PM »
Usually fit with text wrap and utilize hard returns for delineating notes.
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