Topic: PET HATES...

[hudster]

If everyone lists their pet hates about drawings received from other operators maybe we can use it to give some others a guide of what not to do.

I'll start.

Drawing on layer zero, it's for inserting on, xrefs title sheets etc.

[hyposmurf]

Nice idea!Mine would be as folows:

Drawings created in in other programs that crash when you work in them,usually happens from Microstation drawings.
Drawings full of unused layers etc that havent been purged.
Drawings with too much hatching that slows the drawing down or can cause it to crash.
Too many layers with useless unidentifiable names.
People exploding blocks to make revions to them rather than the in place xref editor.
Setting different scales for individual linetypes rather than a global scale.
Using 3rd party applications that can cause problems with proxy graphics.
Saving the drawing with it not zoomed top the extents,so you have a tiny blob just visable in the corner,thats the drawing.
Having a titleblock within the drawing in model space that is the size of a match,favourate by Architects.
Having no drawing scale noted on the drawing when its in model space with a titleblock.
Drawing to a different scale in model space other than 1:1.
Not sending through the font files necessary for the drawing to be correctly viewed.[/list:u]
God I think I better stop I'm getting carried away with having a winge!Shouldnt this be in the vent section?

[42]

1. Drawing on a single layer.
2. Exploding hatches.
3.3D hatching.
4. Snaps not used.
5. Lines not draw to correct length, i.e. by eye.
6. Several lines drawn on top each other.
7. Boxes drawn as individual lines, not poly lines.
8.   Objects either not grouped together or blocked.
9.   Drawing all in one colour……because that’s how he drew with a pen!!
10.   Hatching drawn at various scales representing the same object.
11.   Incorrect use of line widths to create a drawing that is easy to read when printed.
12.   Setting DDUNITS to ten places of decimals and wondering why an area reads 1.28891682E+09 and asking what does this mean.
13.   Inconsistent use of layers.
14.   Drawing on the wrong layers.
15.   Attaching an xref rather that inserting so that it appears on all drawings and me not noticing until a drawing set has been printed.
16.

[42]

1. Drawing on a single layer.
2. Exploding hatches.
3.3D hatching.
4. Snaps not used.
5. Lines not draw to correct length, i.e. by eye.
6. Several lines drawn on top each other.
7. Boxes drawn as individual lines, not poly lines.
8.   Objects either not grouped together or blocked.
9.   Drawing all in one colour……because that’s how he drew with a pen!!
10.   Hatching drawn at various scales representing the same object.
11.   Incorrect use of line widths to create a drawing that is easy to read when printed.
12.   Setting DDUNITS to ten places of decimals and wondering why an area reads 1.28891682E+09 and asking what does this mean.
13.   Inconsistent use of layers.
14.   Drawing on the wrong layers.
15.   Attaching an xref rather that inserting so that it appears on all drawings and me not noticing until a drawing set has been printed.
16.

[ELOQUINTET]

editing dimension whether it be by replacing the carats or changing precision so i looks correct but really isn't.

not using the qleader for leaders or not making them three point so if you need to move the note you have to do a stretch instead of move. not attaching text to leader also applies.

duplicating drawings to show details rather than doing the detail where it occurs and using layers in paperspace. makes revisions a b****

architects who don't put dimensions on anything.

architects who won't send you a cad file instead sending a scan or send it as an xref so you cannot clean it up.

the general cover your a** attitude in the industry.

i guess that's all for now the rest of my hates have been covered

[daron]

Why can't you clean up an xref?

[42]

16. Posting something twice!
17. Engineers having a pop at Architects.
18. Architects sending PDF's of drawings to engineers (The architect that I'm working with on a current project, despite being told severl times).

[ELOQUINTET]

i take that back daron. i was thinking that because we got some drawings with the walls hatched in and each segment is a block. we want to make all work that is not ours light but they make it a real hassle. so i guess that's my addition to the list

[daron]

wblock it out. xplode it in its own drawing and xref it back. Done.

[ELOQUINTET]

well yes but i just want to use the floor plan as a key plan and emphasize my work. the drawing should be sent to me prepared as such that i can easily make the drawing as quickly as possible. being that they want the shop drawing in 2 days  

here's some more:

wasn't the term typical created so i didn't have to put a million notes on a drawing. why then do i have to put typical notes everywhere.

architects who notate using letters or numbers so you're constantly trying to find the damn schedules. if you're going to notate this way do so on put the schedule on every sheet.

architects who send you an entire set of drawings (100 sheets or more)when your work only entails 5 sheets.

more will come...

[Keith™]

1. Improper use of layers and colors
2. Drawings that use the old style plot by color rather than plot by lineweight
3. Exploding blocks
4. Drawing on layer 0
5. Defining blocks on other than layer 0
6. Overriding dimension text
7. POOR DRAWING ACCURACY period!
8. Using a non standard UCS in a 2D drawing
9. inconsistency

the list goes on ...

[CADaver]

2. Drawings that use the old style plot by color rather than plot by lineweight
...
8. Using a non standard UCS in a 2D drawing

Untill all our clients catch up to lineweight instead of color, we're stuck.

What's a "standard UCS"??

[Keith™]

Perhaps I should have said .... WCS .... or some other 2d UCS, I have had drawings where the UCS was aligned with the Z direction then everything has a friggin extrusion direction and makes editing a nightmare unless you reset the WCS

[CADaver]

Perhaps I should have said .... WCS .... or some other 2d UCS, I have had drawings where the UCS was aligned with the Z direction then everything has a friggin extrusion direction and makes editing a nightmare unless you reset the WCS

In 2D, we frequently diddle with the UCS, when stationing or running at some odd angle or something.  UCS <enter> W <enter>, doesn't seem like a big problem to me, unless you mean something else??

[CADaver]

hmmm... pet peeves...

How about 127 A$Cxxxxxxx blocks in every client file you open, seems they're part of his border drawing.  An empty drawing with nothing but the border is 400K.

or

Exploded DIMENSIONS

Elements with Color, Lineweight, or Linetype set to something other than BYLAYER.

Almost, but not quite, on coordinate.

Multiple copies of the same drawing scattered all over the network.

Drawing names like "BUBBA03"