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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2004, 01:52:53 PM »
Yeah, apparently Hudsters on the receiving end of the crap  :o

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« Reply #16 on: January 20, 2004, 02:03:41 PM »
Which in turn creates MORE opportunity for us ...
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2004, 07:10:28 AM »
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Hey now, don't knock the self taught people before you've got to know them. Some of them know a lot about ACAD.


Absolutely right! I think some of these CADers come out of college thinking they've been taught everything they need to know about CAD!

I would say that I know enough about CAD to know that I don't know enough!!!

Most of us who are self taught would probably agree that we had the best teachers as well!

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2004, 07:27:06 AM »
what I was getting at with the self taught comment is, people who open a CAD package draw a line and a circle and think that makes them a CAD operator.

I've been doing this for 13 years and I still don't know it all, but I do know how to draw.  It's the only thing I was ever good at at school.

If you don't know how to set out a drawing, or draw with a good degree of accuracy you aren't a draffie.

I started off on a board with pen and ink and it taught me a good few fundamentals.  But a lot of CAD operators I see nowadays don't know even the basics of engineering drawing.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2004, 09:33:58 AM »
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what I was getting at with the self taught comment is, people who open a CAD package draw a line and a circle and think that makes them a CAD operator.

I've been doing this for 13 years and I still don't know it all, ...


I've been bangin' at AutoCAD for 20 years next month  (ahhhh... Ver 1.4... beatiful thang, it was)  And I don't know anything, much less "it all".  I gotta laugh at those guys who bootleg a copy to thier machine at home, and POOF, they're CAD Operators.

Just the other day I had a guy tell me he didn't use that "new" paperspace stuff 'cuz he wanted somebody else to check out new features before he tried 'em.  When I told him that the PAPERSPACE concept had been part of AutoCAD for 13 or 14 years he got that glazed-over look in his eyes and said "huh?"  I replied "How about them Panthers?"

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2004, 09:49:14 AM »
Yup, I was recently hired for a "contract" job and my first impression was that of a "Fly-by-night" operation with absolutely no clue as to how to make their work easier. My very first drawing, a simple connection for a catwalk, was done using MS/PS. Last saturday they had to have someone come in and redo the drawing using only MS. When they told me of this, I laughed my a$$$ off. I promptly stated that it was not my problem and that I could give all the "CAD" people a class on the subject, and that MS/PS is the right way to do things for various reasons (i.e. Batch process, tblock scales, programming aspects and such). They asked me to leave. stating that I was not a team player. I ask you, would you want to play for a LOSING team? Thus I am out of work and back here to help real people.

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2004, 10:18:19 AM »
that ain't the one you just told us about was it??
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2004, 10:35:31 AM »
I'm afraid so Keith.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2004, 10:39:52 AM »
I guess I had a lesson in humility. I saw the state of their CAD operation and just shook my head. Well, I didn't really JUST shake my head. I let people know exacly how I felt about it, like telling my boss that the current CAD manager is a "Rookie" and that AutoCAD 14 sucks, and if they don't know how to use MS/PS they should go back to using paper and pencils with an abacus. This didn't take very well, and I guess I just let my big-headedness get the best of me.

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2004, 11:09:42 AM »
Well, heck ... you don't want to work with a bunch of lard heads anyway ....
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« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2004, 11:12:35 AM »
You are CORRECT SIR! HA! HA! HA! ha! ha! ha! haaaa.....

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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2004, 11:17:35 AM »
Confusious once say ... "He who laughs last, laughs best"

I believe that ...
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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2004, 11:52:09 AM »
i worked for a couple similar companies about 6 months ago deeg. one even had a hand draftsman. i am in custom metal fabrication and this is unheard of because we're constantly revising as field conditions change. anyway you're beeter off man. work should not be a burden it should be a learning experience which enriches your life. hang in there man you'll find your niche...

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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2004, 11:53:47 AM »
Thanks elo, I got 3 offers today already! 8)

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« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2004, 12:21:40 PM »
Confucius say:
"Lady who cooks carrots and peas in same utensile most unhygenic"
"Man who make love on side of hill not on level"