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What Is This?
« on: October 28, 2014, 07:15:34 AM »
The sanitary and vent pipes in plumbing chase are drawn "correctly". The line represents a sanitary line.

What is your interpretation?

Is it drawn correctly?

Would you draw it this way?

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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2014, 07:25:29 AM »
It COULD be correct, but I would think that the vent stacks (in this case) would be combined into a single.  Are there details calling out more info??
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2014, 07:33:28 AM »
No.

If it is drawn correctly and you were to model this? How would you do it?
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2014, 08:02:39 AM »
This is how typically will show the waste/sanitary and vents.  Keep in mind it may not be modeled correctly because at the end of the day it's still the 2D plans that buy the job.

The brown lines are vents (they're usually dashed because it's a short segment it shows as solid) and the green lines are sanitary/waste.
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2014, 08:04:25 AM »
Can you show me 3D view?
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2014, 09:38:04 AM »
I would think your looks somewhat like this Rob.
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2014, 10:11:11 AM »
Can you show me 3D view?
I'd like to.... but I can't.   Seems whoever "modeled" this, only modeled the H&CW piping (blue & red lines).  The sanitary and vents are detail lines.   :|
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2014, 10:28:09 AM »
Even on the 2d building plans I work with, they draw the vent stacks and related in a 3d view (drawn in 2d CAD).  I have trouble seeing what you have there in 2d only.

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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 11:18:03 AM »
I have trouble seeing what you have there in 2d only.

I agree but was told it is drawn correctly.

This is what I modeled in order to replicate the symbology in Revit. It's over simplified but I'm not trying to model it for the project. I'm just trying to demonstrate why the 2D does not reflect the intent.

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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 01:30:29 PM »
That's what I "saw in 3D" when I looked at your 2D image.  It don't make no sense!
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 01:34:16 PM »
I think the intent is for the san and vent to go up and down at the side away from the corridor and the supplies.

How would you show that in 2D, presented without the offsets like the image in my first post?
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2014, 05:45:38 PM »
Wouldn't it look like this?
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2014, 06:30:28 PM »
I meant the bathrooms shown above in plan view, sorry. Some more info is that there is identical bathrooms above and below.

I'll post an isometric tomorrow.
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2014, 06:55:36 PM »
OK stacked I would do like this:
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Re: What Is This?
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2014, 10:15:31 PM »
Maybe they intend to tie it into one of those new recirculating waste heat energy recovery pumps?   
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