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Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« on: June 12, 2014, 12:08:45 PM »
Typically I create mtext in model space, just like working in that space.
But I am doing some drawings that require the vports in one paper space scaled to different scales so the text is now not uniform in size.
I don't really want to change my ways and annotate in PS but how to address the text scales?

You thoughts?



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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 12:09:48 PM »
Typically I create mtext in model space, just like working in that space.
But I am doing some drawings that require the vports in one paper space scaled to different scales so the text is now not uniform in size.
I don't really want to change my ways and annotate in PS but how to address the text scales?

You thoughts?
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 12:10:45 PM »
Annotation scales? (err i mean annotative text)
but that was suggested before I hit the post button.
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2014, 12:35:05 PM »
Annotative scaling.
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2014, 12:49:50 PM »
OK, Old Dog new Tricks.   :?

Let me get out the manual, I'm using 2006 vanilla you know.

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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2014, 12:53:26 PM »
I was at first not wanting to annotate in PS but when keynoting a drawing and the Keynote list is PS, I annotate the notes in PS.  I have grown to like it.   Only one text style is required. 


My opinion for annotative text and dimensions are a pain, for Architectural anyway.  Annotative blocks are great when you need to show the same symbol at different scales
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2014, 01:05:12 PM »
Thanks for that tid bit, I may have to learn to annotate in PS as ACAD 2006 does not have Annotative Text. :(

Just that I have to go find the Tab when i want to read the notes.
When I do houses I put all floors, and disciplines on top of each other using layer prefixes.
So i just flip layers on & off to read & analyze what I need.

I'm doing a drawing for an engineer of a 60' bridge & the items on a layout can vary vastly in size.
One VP of the Road Approach & another of a small detail like a guard rail.
I suppose annotative text would work well in that case as the detail text would match the other VP.
Mostly the VP's are not to scale but sized to fit nicely on the paper. This means the VP scale are all over the place.



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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2014, 01:15:39 PM »
PS notes work well especially when I going to be using Xrefs to assemble my finish sheets. (which is pretty much always -- notes or dims that are  appropriate on one sheet are problematic on others.
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 01:17:55 PM »
OK, Old Dog new Tricks.   :?

Let me get out the manual, I'm using 2006 vanilla you know.

Thanks
I think annotative scaling came out in 2008?
Which means it won't be available in your 2006.
 
*Edit* I see you found that out earlier, sorry for being redundant.  :oops:
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 01:20:17 PM »
Typically I create mtext in model space, just like working in that space.
But I am doing some drawings that require the vports in one paper space scaled to different scales so the text is now not uniform in size.
I don't really want to change my ways and annotate in PS but how to address the text scales?

You thoughts?
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2014, 01:48:35 PM »
Typically I create mtext in model space, just like working in that space.
But I am doing some drawings that require the vports in one paper space scaled to different scales so the text is now not uniform in size.
I don't really want to change my ways and annotate in PS but how to address the text scales?

You thoughts?
A Word
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2014, 01:55:09 PM »
separate layers for each text scale? A-TEXT-0048, A-TEXT-0192 for 1/4" and 1/16" scale plans?
then viewport freeze unused text layers
(if you don't have annotative text)

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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2014, 03:33:34 PM »
do the annotations in model space

then use change space to move them into paperspace it will scale them for you on the way through the viewport
to be the same size
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2014, 07:12:07 PM »
Oh, haven't tried that one.
Thanks for the tip.  8)
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Re: Text in Model Space or Paper Space?
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2014, 07:29:21 AM »
- Copy text with difierence scale on deference layers then freeze in current viewport
- After finish the text editing CHSPACE to move to PS