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BlackBox

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Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« on: June 11, 2014, 10:47:33 AM »
What is the procedure for creating a (TIN?) volume surface, which only evaluates a given min/max elevation range?
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2014, 11:05:52 AM »
I'm not sure why one would want to limit the elevation range of a volume surface?
If there is 8ft of cut or fill why would one want to exclude any of it?

However let me look at acceptable method for doing this
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2014, 11:07:32 AM »
I'm not sure why one would want to limit the elevation range of a volume surface?
If there is 8ft of cut or fill why would one want to exclude any of it?

For water/environmental analysis, and not generic earthwork volume totals... Displacement of a given volume within a range is what is required.
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2014, 11:09:27 AM »
my first thought
Go to the surfaces that will be used as base and compare, go to the surface properties
and then go to the Definition Page, and limit the elevation range there
using exclude elevations greater than
and
exclude elevations less than functions
then build your volume surface
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2014, 11:14:50 AM »
for clarity on my confusion, typically speaking a 'bounded' volume relates to sub-areas within a larger site


so one may have a large site, like an industrial park
and want to be able to get volumes for each lot or block of lots within that development

not setting an upper and lower bounds to the elevation range being compared
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2014, 11:16:03 AM »
my first thought
Go to the surfaces that will be used as base and compare, go to the surface properties
and then go to the Definition Page, and limit the elevation range there
using exclude elevations greater than
and
exclude elevations less than functions
then build your volume surface

Thank you, Michael - That is what I've done, and was hoping that someone would either confirm/deny this being the correct method.

In some searching/reading, it appears that older versions of C3D would allow user to modify these properties from within the Volume Surface, which is no longer possible.

While modifying the original surfaces does yield the result here, I should think it less work/smaller file size to instead allow such property changes to volume surfaces, as in order to compare a full to partial, you now need two base surfaces, and two comparison surfaces, in addition to two volume surfaces (where one each of the two former are limited by less/greater, etc.).  :ugly:
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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2014, 07:41:12 PM »
For water/environmental analysis, and not generic earthwork volume totals... Displacement of a given volume within a range is what is required.
Isn't this what the Stage Storage tool does? Or may be able to be used for this?

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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2014, 08:48:47 PM »
without more detail it would be hard to determine if Stage Storage is the right tool for this task

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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2014, 12:42:38 PM »
For water/environmental analysis, and not generic earthwork volume totals... Displacement of a given volume within a range is what is required.

Isn't this what the Stage Storage tool does? Or may be able to be used for this?

Good question; I've never heard of this tool before. :-D

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Re: Civil 3D | Bounded Volume?
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2014, 12:54:21 PM »
for that matter the pond volume tools in the storm water stuff might also work
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