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Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« on: April 08, 2014, 05:10:20 PM »
Not sure where to put this, our local public TV station has an annual spring auction to raise money for operating in NH.  Actually @ UNH (university of New Hampshire), couple of years ago I purchased full blown Autocad 2011 for $1,000, I was the only bidder. (No gimick) This year they are auctioning off Building Design Suite Premium, see link below.  For anyone living in New England area this is a great deal.

http://auction.nhptv.org/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&Auction_uid1=209619

Since we have an Autodesk tech support center in NH, I gues they donate one of thier products to auction off each year.  The software I purchased has the (Not for Resale) brand at the top of the screen but functions perfectly.  Could be a great bargain for someone.

The past couple of years I have told a few surveyors, engineers I know about this deal but no takers, so I decided to post something here.

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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 05:13:07 PM »
Forgot to mention, since NHPTV is a nonprofit corp, all donations are completely tax deductible also. They will give you a certificate for this tax deduction to use with your annual tax filing.

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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2014, 06:31:01 PM »
Looks like a good deal.
Not quite as good a deal ACAD LT for $1400 http://auction.nhptv.org/Bidding.taf?_function=detail&category_id=1966&Auction_uid1=209618#np
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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2014, 07:14:54 PM »
AutoCAD LT not a good deal at any price. BricsCAD FTW.
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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2014, 08:06:37 PM »
I just thought this was a good deal, the past couple of years these donations from Autocad went un-purchased.  (no bidders) 

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2014, 11:07:02 PM »
Yes I would love to upgrade my ACAD for $1000
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 11:01:38 AM »
check the NFR EULA -- At one point they were limited to 30 days.  IIRC Shaan sent me a Acad 2005 box, and that was limited (via EULA) to 30 days, even though the authorization worked as a permanent license.

Also limited to non-commercial use.  if the VAR is donating an NFR and implying it's a commercial license...... that's not good,
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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2014, 04:50:37 PM »
check the NFR EULA -- At one point they were limited to 30 days.  IIRC Shaan sent me a Acad 2005 box, and that was limited (via EULA) to 30 days, even though the authorization worked as a permanent license.

Also limited to non-commercial use.  if the VAR is donating an NFR and implying it's a commercial license...... that's not good,

The software is donated directly from AutoDesk, they have a tech support center in NH, and donate a couple seats to this fund raiser each year. 

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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2014, 08:37:01 AM »
check the NFR EULA -- At one point they were limited to 30 days.  IIRC Shaan sent me a Acad 2005 box, and that was limited (via EULA) to 30 days, even though the authorization worked as a permanent license.

Also limited to non-commercial use.  if the VAR is donating an NFR and implying it's a commercial license...... that's not good,

The software is donated directly from AutoDesk, they have a tech support center in NH, and donate a couple seats to this fund raiser each year.

I understand that, but that does not mean that the NFR license can be used legally for commercial work.  back in the old days, an NFR simple meant Not For Resale - and was a perpetual license that had no other limitations.  As of 2005, the NFR was limited by EULA to 30 days and non-commercial use - no different than a download trial (although when I registered my 2005 seat, the authorization code did not have a time out)

What the EULA says today about NFR seats I don't know without deep reading, and I'n not yet gotten my 2015 suite download to look at anyway.  All I'm saying is caveat emptor,
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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2014, 06:10:38 PM »
cadtag,

Although the title at top of window says "AutoCAD 2011-NOT FOR RESALE" there is no indication it is an "evaluation version".

The Product license Information;
License type - Permanent
License Expiration Date - None

After reading the EULA it clearly states that NFR "Evaluation Versions" may not be used for commercial purposes.  The is no indication that this is an "Evaluation Version".

That would be quite sleazy on the part of AutoDesk to donate to a non-profit an evaluation version, that they claim has a value of $4,000.  And probably illegal, as they are I am sure claiming the value of the software donation in their tax filings.

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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2014, 10:04:51 AM »
Of course, a for profit corporation, with a track record for what some people might consider 'excessive enforcement'* would never behave in any manner less than totally upfront and above board.

* orange rectangles, software resale, demand letters to acquire websites that include 'revit' in their domain name, :evil:

IIRC my 2005 NFR license information came up the same -- permanent, no expiration. etc.  Just that the EULA limited it to 30 days and no commercial usage.  I have not yet downoaded my 2015 NFR suite, so have yet to see that EULA.
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2014, 10:36:51 AM »
I don't subscribe to the Evil Empire theory.  Since these came from a *reseller*, not Autodesk, it could be a simple misunderstanding of the licensing terms of service for that specific package.  Especially since those in charge of making the contribution will more likely than not be a non-technical type who don't understand the various license types.
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« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2014, 01:00:44 PM »
not 'evil', just the likely result of organizations that are required to maximize shareholder return.  Inevitably there are going to be individuals who skate awfully close to the edge.  And some that go overboard in their zeal. 

however, while it's understandable that a user may not be familiar with all the nuances of the various possible licensing scenarios -- a reseller really ought to be aware of them, and be clearly communicating them.  That's a significant part of their job.
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2014, 02:26:48 PM »
not 'evil', just the likely result of organizations that are required to maximize shareholder return.  Inevitably there are going to be individuals who skate awfully close to the edge.  And some that go overboard in their zeal. 

however, while it's understandable that a user may not be familiar with all the nuances of the various possible licensing scenarios -- a reseller really ought to be aware of them, and be clearly communicating them.  That's a significant part of their job.

Salespeople and technical specialists, to be certain.  But the person handling the donation could very well be an HR or management type who doesn't deal with such things.
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Re: Building design Suite Premium from Autodesk $2,050
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2014, 05:56:29 PM »
Just to be totally clear, the package was donated by "Autodesk" directly, not a reseller.  Autodesk has a facility in  New Hampshire where these donations come from.  In fact the package was shipped (CD's) directly from Autodesk.